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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 12, 2016 - 10:30am PT
It's from the BBC so you know they're right...


Why Contemplating Death Changes How You Think

By Jonathan Jong - Coventry University From The Conversation
9 February 2016

If death is the final taboo, it might not be for much longer. There has, in recent years, been increasing effort to promote conversations about death and dying, both in the home and in more public settings. For example, death cafes, first launched in Switzerland in 2004, have spread around the world, enabling people to speak about their fears over cake and coffee.
Our reluctance to talk about death is often taken as evidence that we are afraid, and therefore suppress thoughts about it. However, there is little direct evidence to support that we are. So what is a “normal” amount of death anxiety? And how does it manifest itself?

Judging by studies using questionnaires, we seem more bothered by the prospect of losing our loved ones than we do about dying ourselves. Such studies also show that we worry more about the dying process – the pain and loneliness involved, for example – than about the end of life itself. In general, when we are asked if we are afraid to die, most of us deny it, and report only mild levels of anxiety. The minority who report high levels of death anxiety are even considered psychologically abnormal – thanatophobic – and recommended for treatment.

On the other hand, our tendency to report only low levels of death anxiety might be a result of our reluctance to admit to our fear, to others and ourselves. Based on this hypothesis, social psychologists have, for almost 30 years now, examined the social and psychological effects of being confronted with our own mortality. In well over 200 experiments, individuals have been instructed to imagine themselves dying.

The first study of this kind was conducted on US municipal court judges, who were asked to set bond for an alleged prostitute in a hypothetical scenario. On average, judges who were confronted with their mortality beforehand set a much higher bail than those who were not confronted – $455 versus $50 (£315 vs £35). Since then, many other effects have been found among groups including the general population in many different countries.

rest of the article:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160208-why-contemplating-death-changes-how-you-think

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Feb 12, 2016 - 10:40am PT
This strikes me as silly and contrived. Everybody ponders death, some more than others. The young less than the aged. And yes, once you gain years of age (and wisdom) you begin to see things differently, with new priorities.

Nothing much new here, except for the stupid, gay cafe thing pondering a timeless question in groups.

Get a job, sir! Or at least try to enjoy life instead of sitting in a cafe pondering stupid sh#t as the life you're pondering passes by.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2016 - 10:59am PT
Thanks for the solid advice, Bluey! I was just taking a break from my analysis of the EBC's
Smets Wouters DSGE shock parameters which, I know, is an exercise in futility compounded
by the lamentable lack of gay cafes in Monrovia.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Feb 12, 2016 - 11:05am PT
Reilly, I was referring to the crankloons needing to get jobs and get out of their silly cafes. Not you.
PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Feb 12, 2016 - 11:06am PT
Classic Blue!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 12, 2016 - 11:09am PT

Cool article...

Besides making us more punitive, thinking about death also increases our nationalistic bias, makes us more prejudiced against other racial, religious and age groups, and leads to other such parochial attitudes. Taken together, these dozens of studies show that being reminded of death strengthens our ties to the groups we belong to, to the detriment of those who are different from us.

Blue: Why do you put your own personal gay-filter on while reading an article like this one?
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Feb 12, 2016 - 11:09am PT
Ur gonna die...
There is no way out..
The ship has struck berg


Cant wait to become STARDUST..
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 12, 2016 - 11:11am PT
Weather you dwell on death or not it will find you,
I have recently learned to tap 4 letters, to long ,did not read, ( I read the tease twice )
It gave me chuckle, as I can wait to to die but this seems to want to be elisiting the opposite
sentiment .
My favorite new quote from Merry's other half that hero of the SAR and who's 'Spock' like demeanor has him marked by some as "The Forum Bully" which is so funny coming from spooge, pol icky tards, i
is this .
It is this annunciation of how existence is:
If you slow down the heart you'll use less breaths during same time.

Life in the material body is measured by the breaths.

You only get so many and then your number is up.

When your number is up you get kicked out and then you'll be given a new body according to the consciousness you've developed in this life.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2016 - 11:14am PT
Bluey, I know you were. Hope you're enjoying yer new life, really. :-)
But have some compassion for the Ivory Tower inmates - it's tough in there!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 12, 2016 - 11:16am PT

Life in the material body is measured by the breaths.

You only get so many and then your number is up.

I wonder how such a stupid idea found it's medium...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Feb 12, 2016 - 11:55am PT
Blue: Why do you put your own personal gay-filter on while reading an articles like this one?

Homosexuality has nothing to do with my comments. Are you European? How old? Just curious...
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
Feb 12, 2016 - 12:09pm PT
Bluering,

Everybody ponders death, some more than others.



The valiant never taste of death but once.



We need to get Werner in here and align us with cosmic awareness.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Feb 12, 2016 - 01:17pm PT
You have to at least spell it with an h e.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 12, 2016 - 02:35pm PT
I think that I prefer Life Cafes.
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
Feb 12, 2016 - 02:48pm PT
Are these "cafes" really just the "death panels" about which we were forewarned?

Not sure about whether the populous of Great Briton differ significantly from Americans with regard to avoidance of discussing and contemplating death, but it is certainly a subject that should be more openly discussed.

And, is there evidence that religious affiliation (belief in an afterlife) deters more thoughtful discussion of death?
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Feb 12, 2016 - 03:21pm PT
Isn't the Taco our own sort of Death Cafe? Here we sit talking about death, do we not?
Bushman

Social climber
Elk Grove, California
Feb 12, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
I'm really sorry Moose.

The Man Who Drove Over Hisself

The ignernt fool they said
He died a thousand deaths
He breeched the limits to return
His friends and family begged

He felt no earthly fear
When ever death was near
For every time he carved a notch
Into his wooden leg

He drove off many cliffs
His cars went up in flames
Whenever he crawled from the wrecks
He called satan vulgar names

Every time he nearly died
His wife and children cried
She took the children far away
And left him to his games

He never feared his death
He thought it would be his friend
Until the final day arrived
When he finally met his end

He fell out of the door
With his foot upon the gas
He hoped that he could roll clear free
But ran over his own ass

Doctor he came in
The prognoses it was sure
He died real slow and agonized
But death now was the cure

I hoped my little poem
Not insensitive or mean
Will teach me not to 'do it myself'
And take out my own spleen

-bushman
02/12/2016







Mei

Trad climber
I'm back!
Feb 12, 2016 - 05:33pm PT
Maybe it's appropriate here. Two days ago, BBC released a documentary: Simon's Choice.

Here is one of the reviews: How to Die: Simon's Choice review – a beautiful film about the complex issue of assisted dying

I have not watched this 1.5 hour long documentary yet, but it's sitting on my "Watch Later" queue. I want to allocate some undistracted quiet time for it.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

tolman_paul

Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
Feb 12, 2016 - 10:07pm PT
I think that I prefer Life Cafes.

I'll drink an expresso to that.
zBrown

Ice climber
Feb 12, 2016 - 10:20pm PT
I thought this was the cu cu roo paloma thread

Oh well
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