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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 16, 2015 - 06:39pm PT
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the (bluster trumps brains....pun intended) Republican politicians , in this case governors, who want to ban all Muslim Syrian refugees from their States.
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RyanD
climber
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Nov 16, 2015 - 06:43pm PT
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It's not just the politicians
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Nov 16, 2015 - 06:44pm PT
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^^^
I totally agree Jim.
Stir up the masses with fear of "the other." Then they'll vote for whatever you want.
President Obama's comments today on this subject were proud. Proud anyway to all real Americans.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 16, 2015 - 06:54pm PT
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http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=360110
his incredibly stupid hot wet Chinese Food Fart of reality-dodging sophistry is being praised among the Cult of the Left for its daring. Vox claims it's "exactly the right way" to deal with the terrorists; the Daily Beast moistens its panties to praise John Oliver for breaking out the Big Guns against Terror: routine profanity favored by idiot bloggers who are entirely impotent of power and so who shout Nasty Things at the great big world they can't actually touch in any meaningful way.
They don't seem to notice that IS did not mount a "Lifestyle and Culture war" against the French; rather, they have, in a series of attacks over the past year (remember Charlie Hebdo?), launched an actual war, a bullet and bomb war, against France.
Yes, John Oliver, the French culture is immensely superior to the joyless death-cult of the Islamists. Well-spotted, as they might say in England (and bien vu as they'd say in France0.
But unfortunately, a war is not won when two sides get together on the field of battle and show off to each other who produces the best pastries, the best fashion, the best Progressive Televangelist Rants which "DESTROY" the opponent, nor the best #HashtagMemes.
Wars are not won or lost the way gang wars are won or lost in 80s movies, that is to say, with a dance-off.
It's not that the left is so stupid as to be incapable of understanding reality; though that does, of course, play into it. The problem is that they are a Manichean religious cult which has certain extreme religious views, and anyone questioning those views will be deemed heretic and thrown out of the cult and ostracized.
So it's more a failure of moral and intellectual courage than of intellectual capacity. They could see the truth, and they could possibly speak the truth, but they are, as C.S. Lewis observed, Men Without Chests.
The faux intellectual class is in fact studiously anti-intellectual; they are simply the most degenerate sort of priestly class, the priests who do not actually read or study, but just pass what seems like wisdom from one stupid mouth to one imbecile ear.
It is not excess of thought but defect of fertile and generous emotion that marks them out. Their heads are no bigger than the ordinary: it is the atrophy of the chest beneath that makes them seem so.
They're not stupid, so much as they are cowards; and the ultimate retreat for the ultimate coward is the full flight from reality, the retreat to the #SafeSpace of fuzzy dreams of the way they wish the world were.[/quote/]
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:02pm PT
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How about people who climb at Indian Creek, huh, chief?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:05pm PT
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And Squaw Valley.
How 'bout those Redskins. Retarded racists.
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MikeMc
Social climber
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:07pm PT
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Or Black Canyon...
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
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Why don't we buy old Donini a ticket to Damascus. From there he can travel as our American climbing ambassador of good will to climbing areas in northern Syria.
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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Look how well "feel good" attitudes have worked out for France
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
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Look how well 'shock and awe' attitudes worked out for us in Iraq
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:37pm PT
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Jim, they're probably doing it to keep their jobs...have you seen Trump's numbers in those states? Fear sells.
"Feel good"? Nah. France has a robust counter-terrorism program. Not perfect, obviously.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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Hey, Crankster, no fair stealing my answer ;)
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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Obama has been in control for some time. His proxy war in Syria and his support of the "rebels" is the primary cause for ISIS rise to the top and the mass exodus of "migrants"
Its pretty silly to import those you displaced from their homeland.
Had the US left Assad alone to deal with those invading his country this nightmare would have ended long ago
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
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Jody, you can tuck your kids into bed tonight confident that the president is not taking orders from Iran.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
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Had the US left Assad alone to deal with those invading his country this nightmare would have ended long ago
And had the US left Saddam and Afghanistan alone and focused on the real problem - Israel - this nightmare wouldn't be the abject sh#t storm we've left in our wake. It was pretty obvious in 2003 that the real consequences of our actions wouldn't even begin until after we left Iraq leaving a vast unmanaged void in which sectarian violence would predictably spin out of control. It was a bad decision then and one the entire west will be paying for over the next several decades to yet to come.
Clueless in every single way and predictably short memories. What, my nightmare? No way Jose, it's for sure a 700 BC nightmare that has just spontaneously risen up to bite us on the ass - our mindless war mongering had nothing to do with it - in fact, we were the only thing standing in the way of an unavoidable cultural glacier that somehow just snuck up on us.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:49pm PT
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Fantastic idea...let's encourage more immigrants to enter the US...The freeways are not crowded , there's plenty of water , and there are lots of jobs to be filled...
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:50pm PT
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Bush is retired. Obama has been at the controls and chose to continue de-stablising the middle east.
I figured it would take 6 months for attacks to start occurring in Europe. It has taken far less.
and the "feel good" attitudes on display are those who are financially secure and seek open borders and other such "feel good" agenda's as THEY will not be affected by it.
If someone opposes you- just call them xenophobic....and continue riding that high horse
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
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can we all just agree that we hate other people?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 16, 2015 - 07:55pm PT
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Fantastic idea...let's encourage more immigrants to enter the US...The freeways are not crowded , there's plenty of water , and there are lots of jobs to be filled...
Fantastic idea...let's go to the Mideast and start toppling those dominos - hell, if we knock enough of them over the whole shebang will turn into Ft. Wayne overnight and McDonalds and democracies will be popping up on every street corner right across the region.
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