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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Aug 31, 2015 - 10:44am PT
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Aaaargh. Condolences to all effected. Very sad.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 31, 2015 - 11:19am PT
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My condolences to their loved ones. These tragic accidents happen far too often. Once again we see climbing fatalities due to a rappelling accident.....rarely do people get off with just injuries.
It's been my observation that climbers on this forum seem much more concerned with belay anchors than with rap anchors. You RARELY weight a belay anchor, you ALWAYS weight a rap anchor.
I suppose it's because people find themselves building belay anchors a lot more often then rap anchors.
BEWARE....rap anchors are the most important anchors you will ever make.
BEWARE....when you encounter fixed rap anchors, they should be checked assiduously.
BEWARE....the temptation to save a few bucks because you don't want to leave gear behind.
Leaving a brand new cam could be the best and cheapest investment you ever made.
BEWARE....Know where your rappel is taking you or have the means to get back to your rap point if you don't.
I've rappelled thousands of times, often in trying conditions, and I'm still here. I've said before and it bears repeating, when rappelling....vigilance, vigilance, vigilance!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 31, 2015 - 11:24am PT
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^^^ everything he just said ^^^
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Aug 31, 2015 - 11:33am PT
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so sad to hear this.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Aug 31, 2015 - 12:02pm PT
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Very sorry to read this. Many condolences.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 31, 2015 - 12:07pm PT
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That's just awful. Sorry for all who knew them.
That's such a wonderful, beautiful spot...terrible to have such tragedy there.
(It's been a while since I was there...but isn't the photo in the link above flipped? Or is it my memory?)
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Aug 31, 2015 - 01:26pm PT
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So sorry to hear this! My sincere condolences to family and friends.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 31, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
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Good advice from Donini, can't be said enough. Leave whatever it takes and git home.
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pazreal
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:07pm PT
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Wonder if they were simul rapping or if there was a total anchor failure that would have pulled them both down.
Tragic regardless.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:42pm PT
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Sincere condolences to the family and friends of the deceased.
Jim Donini's words are so, so true.
Look at his thread '85 rappels. . .
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dakotakid
Trad climber
Rochester Hills, MI
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@apogee, that image is in correct orientation. Taken from Jackass Pass.
Very sad to hear -- was just there last week. Smoke cleared out on Monday, and clear skies when we left on Tuesday.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Ah man, so sad to hear of this.
My condolences to their families and friends.
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clockclimb
Trad climber
Orem, Utah
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I was in the Cirque when the helicopter made five trips in and out. They were landing over near the classic Northeast Face route. People I bumped into heard that was the route where the deaths occurred and that it was due to anchor failure.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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It's been my observation that climbers on this forum seem much more concerned with belay anchors than with rap anchors. You RARELY weight a belay anchor, you ALWAYS weight a rap anchor.
this was the way i learned, a long time ago, in the 70's. and while i dont pretend that i have anywhere near the experience of donini, this should be the way folks are trained. sad deal for the family and friends.
i remember way back in the 70's in the winds, on a new 1'200 ft route and having to rap off. scary but great experience that sadly many folks dont get.
i have no idea what happened to the climbers from the thread, still feel awful, but please folks, take care.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Any information on what happened? Was it on the South Buttress or East Ledges descent? Somewhere else?
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Crag Q
Trad climber
Louisville, Colorado
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Sep 10, 2015 - 05:50am PT
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The climbers were bailing from the first few pitches on the NE face on Pingora. The report from the Sherriff's investigation is supposed to be coming soon.
Condolences to the friends and family of the deceased.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 10, 2015 - 06:17am PT
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Was that the Kieth that runs the guide service based out of Cheyenne?
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10b4me
Social climber
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Sep 10, 2015 - 08:41am PT
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Well, that sucks. My condolences.
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