Wingsuiting without a parachute the future?

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Studly

Trad climber
WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 4, 2015 - 03:16pm PT

I'm not a wingsuiter, but seeing this video seems like it removes the need for a parachute if you can do a water landing.

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and this guy without a parachute, well hes just plain crazy..

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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 4, 2015 - 03:53pm PT
Icarus
BigB

Mountain climber
Sin City
Jul 4, 2015 - 04:00pm PT
The trampoline one is a fake
http://www.snopes.com/photos/advertisements/trampolinejump.asp
Not sure about wing suit
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 4, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
I think this stuff is going too far. The trampoline stunt looked like a fake.
Rollover

climber
Gross Vegas
Jul 4, 2015 - 04:24pm PT
BS on both..
But what do I know?
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Jul 4, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
Both are so poorly done, fake to the max. if you even think it's real, better check into the nut house.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Jul 4, 2015 - 05:15pm PT
This is real above, maybe.. Box catchers work I know I set them up for a living.[photoid=416919]
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Jul 4, 2015 - 05:24pm PT
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jul 4, 2015 - 05:59pm PT
Men are not birds.
coolrockclimberguy69

climber
Jul 4, 2015 - 06:36pm PT
I think they're still trying to figure out the whole wingsuiting with a parachute deal, tbh.

http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/wiki/BASE_Fatality_List?language=hr
rwedgee

Ice climber
CA
Jul 4, 2015 - 11:10pm PT
http://i.imgur.com/1t9Q4tk.gif
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jul 5, 2015 - 12:21am PT
In principle it seems simply a matter of conceiving a surface you feel comfortable impacting as obliquely as possible at the lowest speed you can maintain control of a wingsuit in.

Dunno... mebbe 60ish in that big fat wingsuit that guy hit the boxes in?

Divoting powder feet first at 60 ...probably a fair bit higher isn't much problem in deep/steep pow. But face first arms spread sounds bad to me. Dunno maybe with some serious helmet/neck brace and body armor underneath...Sounds like asking for some real pain if it goes slightly off..

Yeah I can't see making this a realistic regular practice..not with anything like the wingsuits we see today.

tripmind

Boulder climber
San Diego
Jul 5, 2015 - 04:09am PT
I think in the far future when jet engines become lighter or obsoleted people will opt for powered jetpack flight instead of base jumping or wingsuting because it provides for a great thrill but with a much higher margin of error.

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Doing something like this today is not feasible to the average wingsuiter as the turbines required would cost about 20k by themselves...
Gunkie

climber
Jul 5, 2015 - 06:17am PT
It seems to me that to do this stunt for real, the glide ratio need to be improved. Wingsuits effectively extend the capability of the human body to be a lifting body.


To create more lift additional surfaces can be added. Extendable 'wing tips', deployable bi-plane lifting surface above the wingsuit, or adding canard lifting surfaces will provide greater glide ratios. However, where is the line crossed when we're just talking about a small glider?

Maybe Skip Guerin had it right; no climbing shoes, no chalk equals free climbing.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Jul 5, 2015 - 06:36am PT
It will happen and when it does we will have guys like Dean to thank for developing and working to make a sport that humanity has been dreaming of for thousands of years.
Rock!...oopsie.

Trad climber
the pitch above you
Jul 5, 2015 - 09:17am PT
Ski jumping comes to mind. I am guessing the speed at touchdown would be similar.

No big deal, right?

The real trick is getting a body of water to cooperate at the same angle as a ski jump LZ!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 5, 2015 - 09:32am PT
I find this mildly disturbing. In aviation we are usually striving to expand the margin of error.
Wingsuiting without a chute is the opposite, isn't it? What I also don't get is why they aren't
striving to give their rigs some meaningful aspect ratio* without which they are just an
aerodynamic joke.

* Aerodynamic speak for longer and skinnier wings like an albatross'.
It's the only way to achieve serious L/D.

snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Jul 5, 2015 - 09:38am PT
^^^ all of this is currently being discussed and such. you only see certain videos and the prototypes may or may not be seen in the near future. The majority of us like our parachutes as they are very safe when used appropriately, now very small and light.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 5, 2015 - 09:43am PT
Snakey, if you can come up with the cash I can put you in touch with my friend.
He kinda knows a few things about aerodynamics - he designed the Gossamer Albatross! ;-)
snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Jul 5, 2015 - 09:52am PT
Reilly, the thing is, i like what we have and do it for a hobby. I could get more involved in the research side, but that would become more like a job and i hate to say it, but i prefer to hike and fly on my own time in amazing places..... will send a PM regarding your friend. thanks!
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