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Cha boi
Sport climber
Kirkland, WA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 13, 2015 - 11:07pm PT
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Hello SuperTopo,
I just bought my first rope - a bluewater lightning pro dry rope. I was wrong to think it would be safest to ship it to my parent's house, because our 7th month old poodle puppy chewed the cardboard box, the bonus accessory cord, and at least the end of the rope where he demolished the little plastic label.
My question is, if I look over the rope, inspect the sheath, and feel for flat spots, can I make a call on whether or not the rope is safe? Can the sheath and the feel be perfectly fine yet there still be some deadly damage done by the puppies teeth? I'm thinking about the pinching action of a dog's canine being like scissors.
Anyway, I appreciate any helpful responses from knowledgeable rope veterans. This is my first post. Please don't be upset if I haven't followed the proper etiquette.
Cha boi
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Apr 13, 2015 - 11:21pm PT
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Ya, you're definitely going to die.....
Did he just chew the end or was it more than that? If it was just the end, chop it where he chewed on it and tape and burn the end.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Apr 13, 2015 - 11:23pm PT
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I would think that a puppy's teeth, if they penetrated the sheath, would tend to separate the core threads, rather than cut them. How tight is the sheath weave? If there's any serious doubt, maybe it would be best to use the rope for TRing.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 14, 2015 - 05:07am PT
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What Mike said, climb on a shorter rope.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 14, 2015 - 05:50am PT
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We live in a litigious age. Therefore, I don't want to be the one to say, " just cut out any, visible damage and if there isn't any, don't worry about it" but I know what I would do.
Ymmv
Cavaet emptor
In the next world you're on your own
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 14, 2015 - 06:33am PT
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I would think that a puppy's teeth, if they penetrated the sheath, would tend to separate the core threads, rather than cut them.
Wrong.
Tie up a border collie pup with a rope and in 4 or 5 minutes it will be out in the meadow catching bees.
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Blakey
Trad climber
Sierra Vista
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Apr 14, 2015 - 06:56am PT
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Sheeeet!
I've a garage full of hardware and ropes, better not let this feller in there......
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benkraft
climber
San Francisco
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Apr 14, 2015 - 08:03am PT
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Our standard poodle has had a toy made from my chopped rope since she was a pup and still hasn't managed to get through the sheath. Very "soft" mouths. Is there even visible damage under the chewed label?
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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Apr 14, 2015 - 08:28am PT
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I'd imagine a dog's chomp is worse than cat piss.
a new rope seems like an affordable piece of mind.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 14, 2015 - 08:44am PT
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Post a photo of the area the rope was traumatized by the pup.
Internet diagnostics of this sort is almost useless.
People here are just giving guesses and opinions.
take the rope to a pro ......
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Apr 14, 2015 - 10:27am PT
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Run your fingers slowly and lightly all the way around and along the entire rope. Cut out any spots that don't feel entirely smooth. OR any spots where you can see any irregularity in the weave.
Then use what's left.
If you dare.
I don't care if you feel the rope is safe, your next partner likely won't. If I went out with someone and they produced a new rope that had any irregular spots I'd walk away or insist on my own rope.
Yeah, there's a contradiction that we climb on our own used ropes.
But I know mine haven't had tiny knives driven into them in random places and I trust my partners to have the same judgement.
By the way, the effects of urine on climbing rope is undetermined:
http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/will-dog-urine-harm-my-rope
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Apr 14, 2015 - 10:30am PT
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I call troll.
Climbers don't own poodle puppies.
(Except Tami & her avi-poodles.)
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Cha boi
Sport climber
Kirkland, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2015 - 10:48am PT
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Haha not a troll. My mom is obsessed with poodles.
Anyway, thanks for all the responses. I actually haven't looked at the rope yet. I'm at school and my mom called and said the dog chewed the rope. She saw that the label on the end was chewed but didn't examine the rest of the rope.
I was just wondering if there would be a consensus like "if the sheath and rope look good, the rope's good." I'm going home tomorrow to pick it up and check it out. If anything I'll have a second rope for rappelling it just sucks to spend more $$$.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Apr 14, 2015 - 11:03am PT
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Can't say w/o looking at or handling the rope. That said, we often times have a tendency to use suspect gear for economic or sentimental reasons.
The way I look at it, a simple dr's visit costs as much as a new rope, and if you have to go the emergency room your looking at a new rope, new rack etc. et al.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Apr 14, 2015 - 12:05pm PT
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Ruined and extremely dangerous to have around. DO NOT USE IT
PM me for a mailing address that offers free disposal
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jonnyrig
climber
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Apr 14, 2015 - 01:29pm PT
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I don't see how a dog could damage the core without damaging the sheath. At worst, if you want to get rid of dog slobber, you might wash it. Otherwise, if the sheath looks ok you're probably good to go.
Disclaimer: I buy gear on ebay. You might not want to trust my opinion with your life.
Consensus? GTFO!
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Apr 14, 2015 - 01:59pm PT
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Really, you should get your mom to buy you a new rope. She wouldn't want her son to get hurt because her puppy wanted a new chew toy! ;)
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