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bootysatva

Trad climber
Idyllwild / Joshua Tree Ca.
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 1, 2015 - 08:26am PT
I just wanted to spread the word about this in hopes of diminishing this activity and getting other folks view on the matter.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10206274947942728&id=1536773463
bootysatva

Trad climber
Idyllwild / Joshua Tree Ca.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2015 - 08:31am PT
The link I posted seems to not work so here is the Beta;
A street artist known as "MrAndre" has spray painted his signature brand of spray paint art on a rock at the contact mine trail head.
Most of all I want to get the bad press out in hopes of dissuading others from following in his footsteps.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 1, 2015 - 08:34am PT
bump for booty ...
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Mar 1, 2015 - 08:48am PT
Offensive is the kindest word I can think of for someone who spray paints rocks-In a kinder and gentler world they would just be dragged out and shot,or better yet they should have to spend a month or two with a wire brush cleaning up after themselves. Keep the spray paint on the train cars where it belongs
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 1, 2015 - 08:49am PT
You don't mean this thing do you?

http://www.mrandre.com/mr-a/

Scroll down, second from the bottom left.
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Mar 1, 2015 - 08:51am PT

Lame-o, mr. artist weiner-dude....go tag a building in LA......
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Mar 1, 2015 - 09:04am PT
Get rid of the s after http and your link will work.
http://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10206274947942728&id=1536773463

Looks like the link is unavailable now or maybe you need to have Facebook.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 1, 2015 - 09:11am PT
Maybe it already got pulled. People got to quit friggen painting on rock. It doesn't need it. Essentially, you are tagging the Mona Lisa. It is not my favorite piece of art by a long shot, but I am not even remotely tempted to paint over it.
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Mar 1, 2015 - 09:19am PT
On the street André is known by his graffiti-artist alter ego, the tag Mr. A and for his concept “Love Graffiti.” Mr A is a funny, round face, with a huge smile and a wink that follows you everywhere, and now is all over the world — and often in pink! — a color that is pretty much taboo in the graffiti world, except when itʼs Andréʼs monochromatic style. The Love graffiti are tags of peopleʼs names commissioned by their loved ones that he does in pop colors near where they live, so that they canʼt miss it.

Unlike the past 20 years of street graffiti, where a street artist imposes an anonymous tag for an anonymous crowd — some merely staining a depressing urban landscape, a few becoming famous gallery artists, such as Keith Haring, Kenny Scharf, KAWS, Neckface, and of course Samo — André has hesitated to go from the street into the galleries. Rather heʼs given a new sense to his graffiti art, first, by by-passing the walls of the gallery and introducing his imagery into clubs or night spots, which he participates in opening and promoting all over the world. In doing so he has proactively changed the nightlife of cities such as Paris, New York, and Tokyo. He also reinterprets the meaning of graffiti art, from underground opposition to a more friendly and utopian alternative to the day time. André is one of those rare people who is able to make things happen naturally. His genuine generosity extends into the romantic utopian nightspots he creates, and where people meet.

His second move, after having gone from the wall of the street to the walls of clubs, is choosing drawing over classic canvas work. In quiet moments, he prefers drawing on scraps of paper or in notebooks, which heʼs constantly filling, but rarely shares with others. This is a more personal and intimate activity, far from the commercialism of art.

What a crock of sh#t. Nothing about this is artistic.
WBraun

climber
Mar 1, 2015 - 09:26am PT
Just another misguided loon taking his sh!t and dumping everywhere.

Many years ago there was rock band member who came on stage every time they played and took a sh!t on the stage and called it art.

Someone should have taken a sh!t on his head and called it art .....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 1, 2015 - 09:28am PT
In quiet moments, he prefers drawing on scraps of paper or in notebooks,

Hopefully he can have many more such quiet moments in a nice secure environment.

_ ___

BITD, I knew a Ranger in Olympic NP who had been at Jellystone. As most park people
agree Labor Day brought an end to the summer madness. A week or so later he was taking
a pleasant drive in a remote part of the park when he came across a car parked in a road cut.
He stopped to help and was horrified to see a whole family engaged in spray-painting rocks.
Larry asked the father

"What the hell do you think you're doing?"

With a smirk the guy answered "We're painting the rocks!"

Larry said, "This is a national park! You can't do that here!"

The guy smirked and looked around. "I don't see any sign saying we can't."

Larry looked around and then patted his sidearm and said, "I don't see any sign saying I
can't blow your head off, either."

Larry just happened to have some wire brushes in his truck which he 'loaned' them for the
next 3 or 4 hours.
bootysatva

Trad climber
Idyllwild / Joshua Tree Ca.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2015 - 09:35am PT
A quiet environment like say a Coffin?
Greg Maschinot

climber
Mar 1, 2015 - 10:12am PT
One of my goals in life is to catch someone in the act of doing this.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Mar 1, 2015 - 10:40am PT
Bummer.

Clearest sign of societal degradation.


There is art and then there is felony destruction.

Someone with the energy needs to campaign the graffiti media to spread the agreement that tagging the outdoors is unacceptable.


Some resources:
http://cancontrolone.com/links.html
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 1, 2015 - 11:03am PT
""One of my goals in life is to catch someone in the act of doing this."...

+1000000000000000000+


"What would you do if you did???..."


No-one would ever know. But the problem would no longer be a problem.

skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 1, 2015 - 11:24am PT
Yea........I've noticed parts of JTree have been hit hard. ........... :(
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Mar 1, 2015 - 12:15pm PT
Not nearly as badly as Summit Rock in Sanborn-Skyline County Park on Skyline Boulevard (CA35) above San Jose and the Silicon Valley. Only problem with removing it is that sandblasting wrecks the rock surface. The granite in JT is a little hardier.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 1, 2015 - 12:22pm PT
If you can catch them in the act, what are you going to do?

maybe ask them why?
or
How old are you?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 1, 2015 - 12:26pm PT
Bruce, you can modulate the pressure and sand feed rate to minimize the damage,
unless you're working on the perp's face.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 1, 2015 - 12:42pm PT
Don't sand blast, sandstone... that kills it.

I think its best to jut let it build up.... whenever its painted over the A-holes just have a clean canvas to inspire em.


Justhemaid did a good job of keeping it kicked back at Stoney in years past.....
she would just touch it up some and make the painting sort of disappear.

Don't think that these Taggers are just punks... its a matter of intense pride to these guys. I worked in Van Nuys one time, when I pulled up one early am... some dude was tagging the end building.... I jumped out of my car and started walking over to the dude ..... the f*#ker turned to me and pulled out a 9mm!!!!!
Told me "get the f*#k outa here, man!!!" And he had back up, a car load of other hard ball boyz were showing me their weapons....

So I split, called the useless COPs who didn't give a hoot.... they are also scared of these folks.

ahh diversity
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