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Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 19, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
Way cool, Ron - thanks for sharing the stories!
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 19, 2014 - 07:37pm PT
Sounds like you got a lot of wood back then.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Aug 19, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
Are these people stealing firewood or are they actually milling it?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 19, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
Did you ever dress up like a tree to catch a poacher..? Never knew you were a wood pig...?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 19, 2014 - 07:48pm PT
Yes Rj, and as for the other question- Some was commercial saw logs that went to mills, and a good percentage commercial fire woods outfits as well as other more odd issues.
And yur welcome Clint.


And yes i got mega wood bitd..;-)



I was also in for the "hunt for Claud Dallas" back when- doing relay for the Austin Dist Ranger who thought he was following him over the monitors. 2.5 days he trailed him on horseback until discovering just a venturous back packer.










rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 19, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
Down here rumor has it the poachers said " rat " in the woods , not pigs...
zBrown

Ice climber
Bruj˛ de la Playa
Aug 19, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
Sheeit Mr. Anderson, you had me at LEO level 3 of region 4, so I stopped reading. I will return and finish the rather lengthy diatribe, but my attention span is not what it used to be (back in the summer of '69, when I did not get my first six-g.. er .. six string).

Oh yeah, I fought the law (and the law usually won).

Bronze Badge of Courage
Bronze Badge of Courage
Credit: zBrown
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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 19, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Well Sheeeiiit add all ya want there ZB...




Onto another case- of scales and board footage being off on the production of a commercial log sale to expand a well known resort that shall remain nameless. So i got about a month to grow my beard out and look like a logger. I had been one during some off seasons previously so i had the slang and the whole nine down pat. I was sent in on the next section of sale as a contract faller and started working with the others. this all known by the owner of the logging company.

So there was one guy that always seemed to find the big cherrys - easy nice falls and great board footage tallys- which led me to think he was somehow marking his own as he spent time on the fringes of the cutting much of the time. So i got to buddy up with him acting the part. This went on for a couple of days when he took me into his confidence - laughing - he shows me his secret stash of USFS marked and coded timber paint. He said he had stolen it out of a USFS timber crew truck in placerville . He had indeed been marking his own - picking out what had been designated as leave trees due to their vigor shape and size.

He was A) Guilty of theft of registered paint,B guilty of marking his own trees,C) guilty of habitat damage to the cutting units , D) guilty of breaking contract agreements and E) Commercial timber theft.


Right after i watched him mark a big pumpkin, i strolled over and told him --- i wasnt actually a logger and that he had the right to remain silent.

The look was "priceless".. He cussed and insulted me a little in somewhat of a fit, tossing his gear about as i just stood there watching. I then calmly explained he should calm down before he ended up with a go straight to jail card.

He did ask me what his chances were to fight the cites in court, and i told him i hadnt lost a case yet.

He ended up dong a BUNCH of time serving three different districts on an array of projects as part of the fine and punishments.


And the rest of the counts were spot on for that sale, case closed.

That was interesting being stuck into a situation of concealment keeping the eyes peeled for the slightest odd detail. I was privy to the footage tallys by the fallers in the evening from the foreman of the cut and had my target guy on mind the first night. I think i called him mr volume.

Later that evening after the bust, the owner of the logging company treated me to a very nice steak and lobster meal along with a local district guy. It was damm good lobster.







T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Aug 19, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
It was damm good lobster.

Thanks for yer service Ron,
the lobsters on me.

Maine Lobster after steaming
Maine Lobster after steaming
Credit: T Hocking
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 19, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
Damm Tad! Ive had those main crawley buggars fresh out of the water. !1

Bottom feeders never tasted better!



Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 19, 2014 - 09:00pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

This one is for Fritz--now THATS a chain saw. 925 Homelite super xl with a long bar and skip tooth compliment. Thats my buddy Chuck after falling a 7 foot red fir lightning snag on Silver Peak. The cut is perfection.

I served every year as faller or crewbosses for lightning fire campaigns and as felling boss on large off district type one teams.

"other duties as assigned"...^^
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 19, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
Fritz....! Ron throws down with the 925xtra long sword...Un guard...!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 19, 2014 - 09:39pm PT
The Upper Charity valley case:

Da na na nah,, dah na na nah naaahhhh. Sept 1984,,,, upper charity valley- blu lakes road region, alpine county Ca.


Hundreds of thousands of board feet of marked commercial saw logs were vanishing from a sale to be sold . I had been aware of it for over a month but hadnt been able to catch them in the area. Even working my days off didnt get the results. So the station engine foreman was needing a wood permit to get some wood for his folks. I decided to put him in that same general area within good ear shot of the poachers haunts to see if he could get lucky and be there when they showed.
Within about two weeks, Larry calls in on his radio to "shoot the moon" lol! He was there in his off time cutting when he heard their saws fire up and called me on his HT he had along with him.. I Flew off Monitor pass- all the way on the other side of the district and was there in 35 minutes flat . I was all code three n shyt until i got on blu lakes road and didnt want to spook them.

Turned out to be two young TWEAKERS who couldnt stand still or not scratch the whole time of the cite. I had Chuck show up to add some presence to the scene and the fact these guys made me nervous.

Credit: Ron Anderson


Chuck Jobst and myself keeping distance during citing two tweaked individuals. At this point they had cut about 600K board feet up for commercial firewood. It was a Felony case.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 19, 2014 - 09:41pm PT
I think it's a wanted poster, kids.  It says they're looking for some ...
I think it's a wanted poster, kids. It says they're looking for some Flame named Ron.
Credit: mouse from merced
I got a woody, Ron. I love it when you tell yur sweet lies. :0)
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 19, 2014 - 09:43pm PT
LEO-baiting! LEO-baiting! Write him up! Write him up!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 19, 2014 - 10:00pm PT
Dateline 84, the first annual "Hope valley motor cycle run"...

Imagine you and one other guy being assigned surveillance duties for such a cluster fekk of a gathering? Twas on Blu lakes road, mid summer.

From just behind hope valley camp ground all the way up into charity was bikers. bikers at the river, bikers in the weeds. Bikers on the rocks and bikers taking pees. Bikers in the woods doing things that shouldnt be seen.

bikers making area look rather filthy and unclean.

There were bikers with guns - bikers with drugs, bikers with booze and bikers that were thugs.

there were a LOT of bikers did i mention that.?


So myself and Wayne decide to go into a large group and let them know they need to do some house keeping.. Us two measly piss fir willies against perhaps fifty bikers. This would surely require a verbal command of subtlety and strength yet with a compassionate presentation.. No prob eh LOL! They gathered around us cutting off any quick escape and some smelled like they had been on the road for a month sans facilities.

We played it cool as cucumbers and left with all parts of our bodies in tact. The next three days were a repeat of the above. Campers complaining at hope valley camp ground about them, etc etc etc. It was a culture shock for ol blu lakes road.

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Aug 19, 2014 - 10:33pm PT
Good stuff! I was "level 2" USFS law enforcement. I HATED it. On the one hand I had no gun and always had to deal with twitchy armed rednecks. On the other I just never liked hassling people over camping or whatever. I wrote one ticket during those two years-- total drunk guy blasting a shotgun all night. In a campground!! Found him the next morning, mouth open catching flies passed out. I hope they got rid of of the level 2 category. I left it all to fight fires...
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 19, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
Undercover in the woods, and caught the guys - pretty cool.
Not your standard TV city crime stories!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 19, 2014 - 11:00pm PT
Interesting perspective Ron, TFPU. Someone once told me that an anti-theft technique was to spray potential xmass trees near roads with animal piss that froze on the trees, if a poacher cut the tree it would thaw out and reek. Is that true and does it really work?
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Aug 20, 2014 - 03:18am PT
no john,
we call those piss fir, otherwise known as white fir.

their sap smells like
crotch after a multi-day
intimacy binge.
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