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arkansasmitch

Trad climber
conway, AR
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 11, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
This may be a dumb question, but searching the forum didn't really turn up any good answers. I hear differing opinions of how early you need to be in line at the office to get a spot in Camp 4. We will be there in September and will be arriving next week. We definitely want to be in Camp 4 for a few days. How early do we need to show up in line to get a spot? Thanks for the help!

Damn Arkansan
Mitch
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:28pm PT
probably early...



but it's been a long time since I've been in Camp 4 in September (November, yes, but no one else was there, and winter you've got the place to yourself)

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
Easy....don't!
jstan

climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:20pm PT
I vaguely remember people are asked not to lay out their sleeping bags in front of the kiosk before something like 6AM. But people seem to. Check with the NPS. Pinky and her coworkers try really hard to accommodate everyone but September is tough.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:28pm PT
Easy....don't!
LOL :)
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 10:05pm PT
Unfortunately, it is one of our greatest disgraces, the Camp Four situation.

It is just incredible that we treat out-of-state and foreign visitors to such a disgusting heap of a camp and even make it terrifically inconvenient to just get in there as well.

Even the Park Superintendent Don Neubacher (of Point Reyes Oyster debacle fame) blanched when he toured the camp and its sewery bathrooms a few years ago. And yet still, nothing has happened. We even have the statutory right for more campsites there and authorities continue to stall out any move to make these changes and improvements, even when non-profits have approached them in the most considered and generous manner. The place is hideous. Stay somewhere else, at all costs.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 10:10pm PT
The Lodge suites will do if the Ahwahnee is full up.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 11, 2014 - 10:26pm PT
Last time I tried to stay there (2 years ago) I arrived at 7 am and could not even park my car. Between that and the obvious line I opted for plan B.
Psilocyborg

climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 10:35pm PT
why pay to camp?
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Aug 11, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
Before September 15-ish:
Mid week, 7am
Saturday, 6am or earlier and you won't be first

After Sept 15:
mid-week, whenever
Saturday, 7am

At least this has been my rule of thumb. YMMV. I never worried too much and often showed up late (I hate lines). Only struck out a couple of times. Don't ask me why the 15th is the date... just seems to clear out a little after that. Opinions differ because "it depends".
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Aug 12, 2014 - 04:12am PT
What about a weekend in October?
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Aug 12, 2014 - 05:34am PT
Mid week you'll beat the crowds. I think most of the euros will be gone too with the sweltering thong weather easing up. The stone masters will be back in school, dreaming of FFAs.
Bad Climber

climber
Aug 12, 2014 - 07:19am PT
Hate C-4. It's a noisy dump. I'm with Peter. Do you best to stay anywhere else. Camp outside the park and commute in?

BAd
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Aug 12, 2014 - 07:19am PT
I always found that after about October 1 I never had any trouble getting a spot even arriving late. I do still try to avoid Saturdays, however. I'd guess Sept 15 has to do with school. And then that first rain around Sept 20-23 drives the rest of the riff-raff away. Silly people. Then there's the big storm in late-ish October. But there is really nothing better than fall in the valley.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 07:22am PT
Yer gonna die!
Mr. Rogers

climber
The Land of Make-Believe
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:34am PT
I've gotten a spot at Camp 4 on a Saturday morning in September more than a few times. Each time I've done it a fair chunk of the line has not gotten a spot. Once it was even Labor day weekend (which we had forgotten).
Get there at 5am. Earlier than 5am is even better. Ignore the sign that says no sleeping bags or mats, just make sure you put them away before the ranger shows (or you need to be able to plausibly fake it that you can only speak and read German).
Don't assume that just cause there's 3 people in line ahead of you that there are only three people in line ahead of you. One year the single dude ahead of us morphed into his entire goddamned family once the ranger appeared. They had all been sleeping in two family vans in the parking lot - multiple kids, wife, grandparents (both sides), random cousins - the one dude took up over a dozen spots.
The Call Of K2 Lou

Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:03am PT
Does anyone have any recommendations for other Yos campsites? Say, for a road-tripping Canadian family who want to do a little exploring, not all climbing-related?
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:31am PT
Surely you jest?
The Call Of K2 Lou

Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:57am PT
Big trip with the whole family next year (12 people). Me and my girl are staying once they're gone, so we'll get our climbing in for sure, but I'm looking for recommendations from seasoned Yosemite vets that would be suitable for grandparents and little tykes (car-camping, RV).
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Aug 12, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
Try the Upper or Lower Pains.

North Pains is far better if you can get a spot by the river.

The price is outrageous -- $20, but for that many people quite ok.
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