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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 28, 2014 - 11:44am PT
Nawmsayin? :)



DMT
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 28, 2014 - 11:53am PT
I saw a lot more of those in Washington and Idaho last week. The Snake River in Southern Idaho is lousy with them, but in a good way. Whatever works is awwight for me.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 28, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
Everything old ...



.. is new again.

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2014 - 12:31pm PT




DMT
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 28, 2014 - 02:51pm PT
There is no free energy.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jun 28, 2014 - 03:04pm PT
Blame Newton.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jun 28, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
"there is no free energy"

You are correct sir,BUT,

There is a such thing as sustainable energy.

Like it or not ,IT is on it's way.

Credit: wilbeer
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jun 28, 2014 - 06:39pm PT
There is no free energy.

I can get a sunburn for free.
NA_Kid

Big Wall climber
The Bear State
Jun 28, 2014 - 07:12pm PT
Credit: NA_Kid
Dave

Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
Jun 28, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
F' the whales. Save a coal miner.

Credit: Dave
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jun 28, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
Yeah man,no kidding.

Extraction is really so 1965.


Wonder how "FREE" that is?
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jun 28, 2014 - 08:02pm PT
Alternative sounds controversial.

I am out.

Moosenergy
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Jun 28, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
Liquid fluoride thorium reactor
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_fluoride_thorium_reactor
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power

Kinda like dilithium.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilithium_(Star_Trek);
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jun 28, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
How about this - take one 55 gallon drum of nuclear waste.

Bury inside a lead lined concrete vault.

Top with a heat exchanger.

Run through a step up transformer/inverter to get to 120 vac.

Ta- Da!

Power your whole neighborhood for the next 150 years!
wilbeer

Mountain climber
greeneck alleghenys,ny,Terence Wilson
Jun 28, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
Sounds feasible ,for almost everybody^^^^^^^^^
Credit: wilbeer
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 28, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
For all our technology sophistication and velocity, one aspect has not kept pace - batteries. Energy storage capacity at all scales just has not kept pace and is the real stumbling block to wind and solar energy reaching their potential at utility scale.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jun 29, 2014 - 09:45am PT

Wave the sails.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jun 29, 2014 - 09:51am PT
Not too many of those in our neighborhood yet, possibly there's not enough wind. Instead we run our widescreens off an old coal plant and a near-sealevel nuke.

Saw wind towers all over the landscape in Germany on a recent trip, that was impressive. Cross the border to Switzerland and it looks like hydro power instead.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jun 29, 2014 - 01:37pm PT
I agree,Healyje. Storage is a problem.Small scale systems are evolving nicely,Large scale,not so much.

Batteries,their design,maintenance and recyclability are creating a large industry right now.
As more R/D is being done,breakthrough technology is within reach.

http://www.roanoke.com/business/news/battery-based-energy-storage-a-hot-new-industry/article_afbd24b0-fe25-11e3-8dc5-0017a43b2370.html#facebook-comments
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 29, 2014 - 01:41pm PT
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