Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 25, 2014 - 08:34am PT
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Super intelligent birds. There is a family living in my hood, we call back and forth. It's nice to see them around 5:30 every morning when I'm out walking my dogs.
Anyone else a fan of ravens?
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:40am PT
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Yep. Cool birds. I'm even a fan of crows though not when they come through my yard at 5am in the summer.
Their call would make a great ring tone for your phone.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:41am PT
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ravens are responsible for not only the decimation of nesting sage grouse but also the desert tortoise decline. At washoe lake they ravage nesting ducks- either eating the eggs or pecking the brains out of chicks. We have too many ravens.
Govt trappers are licensed to shoot them any time they can get close enough. And i do as well.
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:42am PT
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DMT
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locker
climber
STFU n00b!!!
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:54am PT
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"Anyone else a fan of ravens?"...
Many years back I had one as a "Pet"...
They are very intelligent birds...
Considered the most intelligent of the North American birds (If memory serves me correctly), with crows coming in second...
Mine used to talk, play catch, and lived cageless in my then apartment...
Not being a legal situation, my neighbor called it in and they took the bird from me, caged him, and he became the "Mascot" at some Fish and Game place or wherever...
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pc
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:58am PT
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Cool looking book DMT. Thanks for the headsup on it.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 09:02am PT
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Thanks, DMT, I'll check it out.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:03am PT
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Locker, my parrot could train ravens..;-) They ARE intelligent boids,, but they ARE murderous bastids to all the other boids...
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:04am PT
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Brandon a big two thumbs up on that book.
The place setting is New Hampshire, in principle. I think you will like it a lot and there are numerous surprises therein.
DMT
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 09:08am PT
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Drinking coffee and walking my dogs on Monday morning, I watched a very large raven flee from an aggressive jay. His wingspan was damn close to my own.
And Ron, nature is a fierce thing, you of all people should know that.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:12am PT
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I do indeed know that Brandon. Ravens are plentiful here - actually over populated and they are doing great harm to that balance of nature. Hence the govt shooting them every slim chance they get. It ISNT easy to shoot one of those- they are smart enough to know about guns and hunters. Last year it was estimated that they ate about 50% of the duck hatch at a near by lake. Like game must be managed, so should predators.
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:20am PT
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They are wolf birds. They eat other birds, yep. And carrion. They followed the Euro-wars around and pecked out the dead eyes of Euro-cadavers. They follow hunters like Inuits and wolves and such, as well.
I can readily see the explosion of cities in the arid West like Reno and Sparks, that there is attendant explosion of raven population. I can see they would eat turtles.
But damn those birds for killing a duck before you could Ron! ;D
DMT
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Rollover
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Gross Vegas
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:21am PT
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 09:31am PT
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I just ordered the book, Dingus. Looking forward to it.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:43am PT
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Ravens and Crows are not the same thing. They call a flock of crows a "murder" for a reason.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Crow_vs_Raven
Corvids will eventually take over after humans get done killing themselves off.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:59am PT
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I hate ravens and crows. Freaking noisy as hell.
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locker
climber
STFU n00b!!!
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Jun 25, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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"Locker, my parrot could train ravens..They ARE intelligent boids,, but they ARE murderous bastids to all the other boids... "...
On command my Raven would have pecked your Parrots eyes out and then drank it's milkshake...
;-)
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jun 25, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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Amazing birds. 'nuff said.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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Yep. Crows offen gather in the neighborhood before they roost and can raise a hell of a racket.
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