Hows that Utopia coming along? (Way OT)


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Trad climber
Pine Grove
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 30, 2014 - 01:23am PT
Just thought this was an interesting example of government doing what it does best.

Now I don't care what your political affiliation is, the end game is still the same. Your Liberty has already ended.

Government is not solution to our problem, government is the problem.


Mckinleyville, Ca
Apr 30, 2014 - 01:28am PT
government is only the symptoms of the problem

san francisco
Apr 30, 2014 - 01:50am PT
Malaria was a problem, then government solved it for us.
John M

Apr 30, 2014 - 02:12am PT
I agree that building code needs to be reworked to be less oppressive.


since you quote ronald reagan as saying government is the the problem, who by the way increased the size of government, but ignoring that, ..

is there any form of government that you agree with? Should we go back to the wild wild west?

I will say this.. I like that guy in the video..

The user formerly known as stzzo

Sneaking up behind you
Apr 30, 2014 - 02:17am PT
Mmmm kay...

This "country" was built on swindling & stealing land from the natives, if I heard correctly.

I'd bet even in the homes of these guys, there are rules. Those rules are "government".

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 30, 2014 - 04:27am PT
Reagan was a moron.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Apr 30, 2014 - 05:11am PT
Credit: Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Apr 30, 2014 - 05:24am PT
Funny thing about representative government is that it represents the people who make it. Americans get mad about government because they don't like what they see in the mirror.

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Apr 30, 2014 - 09:24am PT
High Desert, That is the quote of the day.

Trad climber
Apr 30, 2014 - 10:26am PT
+ for HighDesertDJ

Apr 30, 2014 - 10:31am PT
We live in a world of citizen's united, so I'm not so sure about that hddj.

Hi fatty.
The Warbler

the edge of America
Apr 30, 2014 - 10:47am PT
If more Americans knew bullshit when they see it, things could be pretty good

Religion, military contractors, Big Oil, insurance companies all pull the strings And the puppets dance

Edit: by bullshit I mean claims like Ronnie's above, and pretty much everything that came out of his (bad actor's) mouth.

Amazing how conservaties lap that sh#t up

Gym climber
Great White North
Apr 30, 2014 - 10:52am PT
angry white men, so oppressed

give me a f*#king break

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 30, 2014 - 10:55am PT
Government is not solution to our problem, government is the problem.

and then the suckers voted me in to run the government I didn't believe in..even after I told em I was going to be the problem.

I mean seriously they hired a guy who told em the job was to cause problems. Who does that?

"Raygun" from the grave.


"Government is the problem" is a childish statement of fools who cannot acknowledge the necessity of good government or begin to fathom what good government should look like.

Let alone hold it accountable to excellence.

It is a soundbite used by con-men to destroy proper governance and this nation for their own gain..swallowed by the koolaid drinking followers.

Don't get me wrong.. I tend conservative in many areas and can easily rip apart the demoncrats as well as the republicons. Sadly both parties are forced by the system we have allowed to serve other interests as The Warbler mentioned long before the peoples interests.

Your vote is a farce, the deck is stacked long before you even get to see it let alone vote on it. By way of the absurd practice of "campaign donation"

Apr 30, 2014 - 11:54am PT
Anita nails it again.

Apr 30, 2014 - 02:12pm PT

Angry White Dudes? Haha, those angry white men have their own web site and Eustace is on it:

Eustace said:
"“This is supposed to be the land of the free. Government is supposed to help people, protect their individual liberties and freedom — that’s not what’s happening here,” said Conway."
He seems like a good guy to me, just from watching the show.

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 30, 2014 - 02:20pm PT
Reagan doubled the national debt and raised taxes 10 times

who cares what he said or thought

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 30, 2014 - 02:24pm PT
I always wonder what I'm missing when I agree with HDDJ, but I think you're spot on this time.

John M

Apr 30, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
--The guy makes some good points in the video.

--The quote does not represent what is in the video.

The quote is stupid since reagan grew the government. The man in the video on the other hand makes some good points. why does a living structure have to have piped in water? why does it have to have electricity.

Trad climber
Pine Grove
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 30, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
The quote wasn't meant to glorify anything regains dumb ass did or didn't do. It was a simple glass over statement meant to simplify and illustrate the basic point that too much regulation is never a good thing.

is there any form of government that you agree with?

Yes, states rights and local government. The federal government should have little to do with our every day lives.

Let me get this straight.... This guy doesn't want building codes?

That whole video flew right over you didn't it? Give it another run and this time "watch it"! I don't agree with a lot of the stuff you constantly spew, but I know you're not that dumb.

The Anti-Government rhetoric has been set in motion by the Libertarians/conservatives as a means to dismantle our government in the hopes of just what the guy is ranting about.
No regulations, all so he can have his selfish wish of it being cheaper to build.

Dr F. Take off the foil cap for a second and just watch the damn thing again. Nobody said anything about NO regulations. This guy was in compliance of all regulations but got shut down by pure bureaucracy and government over reach. I can't see how anyone would be for that, no matter what side of the isle you're on. Not everything is an extreme left and right issue.

John M gets it.
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