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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Are you suggesting that burning coal may not be the cleanest way to produce energy? Stop the presses.
Curt
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, randisi... oh my, :(
say, do you have any close up views on a good day, of the yellow sea, that you mentioned?
sad to see the bad air, :(
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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everybody chain smokes Lucky Strike non filters over there,
they need to switch to Kent with the micronite filter,
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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When I worked as a handbag designer, I made several trips to Hong Kong and into China. Mostly only to Shenzhen, but a few trips further north to see factories.
One time our factory owner picked us up in Shenzhen and drove us six hours to see his factory when we first started doing business. Beautiful mountainscapes. Seeing people working fields, mothers with babies on their back, hoes of bamboo. Cattle of some sort being driven along the roadside by handlers, and waiting a good while for them to be maneuvered for us to pass.
Unfortunately for me, that was back when I was much more clueless, and barely aware, really, of my surroundings. Few real memories of times which should be richly laden.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Awesome thread! The air part is not so awesome, but I really love these photos (and your commentary). I hope you have more to share. And I'd love to hear more about your work too.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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This is a great thread. Great insights, all around. Thank you!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Great OT TR. Keep on posting!
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Randisi as a 40 something angry white dude. That's cracking me up!
Good to hear from ya, buddy!
I would have thought that you and ekat might have known each other from the valley.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Shanghai Population
1953 6,204,400 —
1964 10,816,500 +74.3%
1982 11,859,700 +9.6%
1990 13,341,900 +12.5%
2000 16,407,700 +23.0%
2010 23,019,200 +40.3%
2012 23,710,000 +3.0%
Public awareness of the environment is growing, and the city is investing in a number of environmental protection projects. A 10-year, US$1 billion cleanup of Suzhou Creek, which runs through the city-center, was expected to be finished in 2008,[96] and the government also provides incentives for transportation companies to invest in LPG buses and taxis. Air pollution in Shanghai is low compared to other Chinese cities, but the rapid development over the past decades means it is still substantial by worldwide standards. The government has moved almost all the factories within the city-center to either the outskirts of Shanghai or the neighboring Jiangsu and Zhejiang provinces in the last two decades. In addition, several parks have replaced factory land in the city-center. As a result, Shanghai's air quality has been steadily improving since the 1990s.[97]
In March 2013 over 12,000 dead pigs[98] were found in the Huangpu River, which supplies Shanghai with some of its drinking water. The pigs were dumped by farmers in neighbouring Jiaxing, Zhejiang province, a major pig farming area that is upstream of Shanghai.
Skyfall, 007 movie, had some cool scenes done in Shanghai,
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Randisi, this is great. Thanks for sharing your world. Now all you need is that bagel shop...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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I haven't been to Dalian, but I've been to China quite a few times on business. Just to big cities, so I can't comment on what life is like in the country, but in the cities, it's not so different. There are areas that are all shiny and modern and full of people whose standard of living is pretty much like the professional classes in Europe and North America. And there are areas that haven't changed much in centuries, that look very different to anything you'd see in Denver.
I'm no expert, but from what I've seen, mostly it's just people, like anywhere else. There is wealth, there is poverty, there is good, there is bad, there is beauty, there is ugliness.
And above all, there is a coming-together of global influence. Just as there is plenty of Chinese or Thai or Japanese food not far from you at home, there is plenty of American and European food in Shanghai or HK or Kuala Lumpur. And fashion. And stupid TV shows.
This is Shanghai, but it could be any modern city, anywhere.
A food court, in a mall in Shanghai
Blacksmith setting up his portable shop
Tourists taking pictures of each other in front of well-known landmarks.
Older part of Shanghai
Down south, in Guangzhou, a lot of people climb up the steps to Monument Hill for an early morning workout.
City workers taking care of a park in Guangzhou
And finally, whatever you can say about the people, cats are cats are cats are the same everywhere.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, randisi...
wow, thanks for the yellow sea, to see!
and for sharing all the pics of your local area...
and naturally for all the rocks, and landscapes etc...
say, that little fenced trail up the black? rock (was it called) ...
how does it fair/fare as to hikers?
is it by the sea, does the waves ever rush, during storms and ruin parts of
it, or add more danger to the already dangerous looking climb?
do folks frequent it all, or just on certain occasions... ?
thanks again, for all of this interesting share, and, the rock,
for the ol' climber-needs, here, :))
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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The OP needs to get away from the People's urban center and get out to the people's Ziang-Miao autonomous prefecture for collective contemplation on socialist doctrine to purge artificially accumulated Capitalist atmosphere.
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bergbryce
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Neat thread.
I always thought Bread sang All I Need is the Air that I Breathe, but it was actually the Hollies.
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Guangzhou
Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
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I lived, worked, and climbed in China. Loved my time there. About the only bad thing I experienced was the pollution.
I spent most of my weekends int he country side. Felt that locals there were extremely friendly. We were putting up routes outside Guangzhou. Kids would come watch, old couples would invite us in for tea, and we help harvest rice one weekend.
Currently I'm interviewing with a couple of International schools in China. Both my wife and I like it, the climbing is good, the cost of living reasonable. Pollution still sucks.
With all that said, I am also chatting with a school in Chile. Chile would definitely take priority over China.
Eman
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Cool to see the pics Randisi, definitely would like to get over there.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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nice randy, tx for the pix.
2.5 years? really?
where does it go
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Randisi, my wife and i lucked out ib both Bejing and Shanghai with unusually good air conditions....not so in Chengdu.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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First trip to Asia was Seoul. Got off the plane and then didn't see anything further than about 100 meters away for two days. Air was yellow and the locals were all wearing masks. But it didn't smell bad, which I thought was weird.
Turned out not to be pollution, but rather the top 5 cm of northern china en route to North America. The result of desertification on a scale almost incomprehensible.
Seoul was a great place though. As opposed to New York, where I am stuck for the next few days.
Edit: Back from the pub, and so with access to photos...
View from my hotel, as the storm was clearing
And a really tacky decoration in a conference center
I've posted this one before, but it belongs here just to keep things climbing-related. Or at least rapelling-related
And finally, the climbing store (also at the Namdaemun market). Although, with a name like Kolon Sport, I think maybe I've found Locker's source for Blue Butt Plugs
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