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le_bruce
climber
Oakland, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 2, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
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Grrrr. What's the straight dope here. Can I park outside the 140 entrance and hoof it up to Arch?
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WBraun
climber
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It's closed. Not OK
That means everything inside the park boundaries.
What part of closed do you guys not understand?
If someone gets hurt then you call sar for participating in a closure area?
You will will be completely hosed and the fines exorbitant.
No one one likes or wants this total fubar here but we have to live with it.
Resources are at rock bottom minimum to deal with anything.
That's why it's closed .......
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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^^^ Exactly, thanks Werner! ^^^
We have local bandits in JTree asking similar questions. Just move along people, nothing to see or do here..........for now anyways.
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le_bruce
climber
Oakland, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
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God damnit, Braun.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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It will be open again someday. In the meantime we can go elsewhere.
Werner is stuck with the skeleton crew and I hope that it does not turn epic due to the usual idiots.
I love the Valley in October, and have plans, but it looks like we are gonna switch to SoYos unless this Shutdown gets fixed.
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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I empathize with all the employees and the BS they will have to deal with, but...
Then again, I guess 'Public lands are not Public' at all are they ?
This time the National parks.
Then it will be all BLM land.
Then just good ole 'Martial Law' !
I say it's time to put the reigns on Washington and the FED in general !
Federal level politicians live a lifestyle few of us will ever know and They do this off tax revenues and corporate lobbyist money
(a polite way to say bribes!).
All the while they get very little done other than bickering and deliberating over new scenarios to bolster the coffers of their corporate pimp's pockets !
If I got paid what Senator or Congressman made, relative to what they produce, then I would get paid $182.67 for every bolt I nutted up !
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Werner,
Are you personally allowed to climb while the park is closed?
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John M
climber
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Not even supposed to go hiking.
During the 95 closure things eased up after about a week, but right now the rangers seem to be taking it serious.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Climbers think they are special...
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Juanito
Social climber
San Diego, CA
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I'm hearing that people are able to drive into the valley so long as they don't get out of their cars. Supposedly only the roads to Glacier and Mariposa are completely closed. Is this true? If so, is this just until all the campers are pushed out? How are they enforcing this?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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The Republican people that are closing down our Public lands don't want those lands to be under: "Government-Control."
Please!
Think about what happens when our climbing areas are owned by "Corporate America"
-------whose managers don't think that climbing is a "profit-center."
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Brock
Trad climber
RENO, NV
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So I guess they are not rounding up all the backcountry hikers either? Man, I think of all the climbs in the middle of no where I've climbed and in complete knowledge of no help if I get into trouble. So how does closing Yosemite to a complete self contained climber/hiker effect anyone? Go for it. Guess they will try to fine you so they can pay for the days they are not getting paid too.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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If you can't find a way in untooled, you don't belong there.
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Juanito
Social climber
San Diego, CA
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I've read in the Oakhurst paper that Tioga road is open. You can still enter from Oakhurst, drive into El Cap Meadow and then head over the pass. I wonder if you can drive from El Portal to Oakhurst via the Valley or do they force you over Tioga?
Just thinking out loud, but you could get someone to drop you off and then pick you up later when you're done. Just grab your backpack or haul bag and go!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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who would respond to SAR at Parkline?
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WBraun
climber
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Parkline is inside the park boundaries.
This isn't about sar, me or you.
I gave an honest answer to the original question.
It's up to you people to be responsible.
If you end up being irresponsible and stupid then you'll eat the repercussions of those actions if you get caught.
It's that simple .......
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Master, you should absolutely go climbing in the Valley tomorrow. Better yet, get hurt there.
"Think about what happens when our climbing areas are owned by "Corporate America"
-------whose managers don't think that climbing is a "profit-center."
+1.
+10.
+$100.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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National Parks and National Forests are not the same and will be operating under rules regarding the closures of facilities, pay for employees, and how those impact management of the lands...
... more frequently than not, Parks can close gates and limit access more readily than Forests.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Currently, it's a rock just like any other rock as far as I'm concerned. The government can take away the perks like bathrooms and rescues but THEY CANNOT TAJE IT AWAY. It belongs to the people not the government.
F*#k anyone who says orherwise
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