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Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Aug 11, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
Say it ain't so...that's bureaucratic BS dude.

You've let me live vicariously through your lens for years.

Utter bullsh#t.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 11, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
F*#KEM TOM

I expected this

It's been a good run.

They were lucky to have you.

It will be hard for you to get around the non volunteer camping limits I suspect.

That will be the next stage of bs.

Gotta be a way for one of climbings greatest journalists to do his job.

Best luck .. go to the top. Have a better attitude than we do though...lol
Fish Finder

Social climber
Aug 11, 2013 - 05:51pm PT



The artistic sh#t if there is any

Is all you and owned by you exclusively

Unless you contracted that it is theirs

Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Aug 11, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
WTF OVER? That's a big pile, Man. Sorry to see you go.
QITNL

climber
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
From Tom's post:

"The National Park Service, (NPS) now says that as a volunteer, all my photos, writings, blogs, artistic renderings, etc. that were done using information gathered while volunteering at the Bridge, are now exclusively the property of the NPS and I have no rights to any of my own work."

That's absolutely preposterous! Is that some kind of joke? I'm willing to send a letter or two to protest this - and I could ask a few other folks.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
Lawyer!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
No need for a lawyer unless they give you notice to cease and desist or attempt to take your property.

You ARE a Journalist.

Again dinner with the headman would be my approach to resolving such a minor petty issue that serves the interest of the NPS.

FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:05pm PT
Sad day -- glad to hear you are going to keep shooting & posting.

Thanks for all you do.
Ian Jewell

climber
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
Tom Evans has applied for, and is expected to accept , a position as a SanJan at housekeeping camp. he will be cleaning toilets and emptying trashcans on the graveyard shift .

He will be living in Boystown , his roommate will be a 23 year old bipolar headbanger who is into World Of Warcraft , and has a ferret .

the roommate's name will be Jordan.

Jordan will eventually end up as the food and beverage manager for all of Curry Village, but that won't happen til the season after next.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
This is a dang shame.

OUR service is a bit too heavy-handed in a lot of things they do for US.

Thanks for volunteering your valuable expertise and canny lenscraft, man.

I only wish you the best hereafter.

See ya at the Bridge, El Capitano.

stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:51pm PT
That's crap Tom. I've vicariously lived a lot of El Cap action through your lens and blogs. It would be one thing if they were paying you. But as a volunteer, they are getting a whole lot of positive publicity from you. Damn bureaucrats can't see the obvious.
I hope that there can still be some resolution. I'm sure I speak for a lot of folks on this site that we will help any way you need.

--Steve
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
Fight the power!

Have they tried to seize your property yet?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 11, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
at a time when volunteerism seemed to be gaining interest among the climbers, we have Roger Brown being told he was no longer of service in the Valley and now Tom having to agree to conditions which are not at all agreeable.

It would seem that the NPS, at least at Yosemite, should try to figure out just what kind of an organization it wants to be, and how they could collaborate with a constituency which has an intimate connection with the place.

Climbers are not just tourists, at least not the climbers I know... and this strict interpretation of "the rules" will only inhibit more cooperation. The park could use much more cooperation, and on mutually beneficial terms.

Thanks to you Tom for all you've done both for the climbers you've shot, and for educating the public about what we do. You've been there for many climbers in their time of need too, I'm sure that fact was most welcome in all cases.

WTF

climber
Aug 11, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
Now you can drink at work again. ;) Sorry but I see this as a blessing for Tom

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 11, 2013 - 07:13pm PT
Thanks Tom.

Hope all goes well in the future.

ElCapPirate

Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
Aug 11, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
It would be one thing if they were paying you.

The Ask a Climber program does pay. Pretty well, too. When I did it I got $125 per day, for five hours... $25 per hour isn't bad for sharing your passion with tourists.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Aug 11, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
What bored low-life pushed this choice on you? Sheesh.
ElCapPirate

Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
Aug 11, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
Yup Russ, I meant five hours... fixed it.
QITNL

climber
Aug 11, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
If you say let it go, Tom, I respect that. You certainly built a tremendous body of work. Best luck with your next projects.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Aug 11, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
I think you should share the NPS copyright conditions with the Travel and Outdoor Photographer's Alliance, that pays close attention to these issues

http://www.t-o-p-a.com/

Hope to see you around

Baba
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