Gun Deaths In USA, Since Newtown, Exceeds Iraq War

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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 13, 2013 - 11:29am PT
The number of gun deaths in the U.S. since the Newtown elementary school massacre has exceeded the total number of U.S. troops killed in the Iraq war.

According to a tally of gun deaths from Slate, the number of people killed since the Dec. 14 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary is now 4,499. The number of U.S. armed forces killed during the Iraq war was 4,409, according to the Defense Department.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/gun-deaths-since-newtown-now-surpass-number-of-americans-killed-in-iraq-20130530
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:32am PT
guns don't kill people, geez
dirtbag

climber
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:36am PT
Yeah, God kills people.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:36am PT
Are you counting all the people who killed themselves on purpose?

Are you counting the people whose killings were justified, like when a cop kills someone who needs killing?

Are you counting the people shot by FELONS, who are already barred from owning guns?
PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:37am PT
The culture has to change.
rick d

climber
ol pueblo, az
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:45am PT
from the data sheet there are a fair number of self inflicted gunshot deaths.

I think that data needs to be drawn out into its own column for clarity.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:47am PT
details
rick d

climber
ol pueblo, az
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:50am PT
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

the download is near the bottom of top paragraph. Some of the links are dead FYI.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:51am PT
I recently watched a Vice episode about the gun culture of Chicago gangs. Scary stuff for sure. Strict Chicago gun laws have zero effect on the ability to obtain guns in the Chi town hood. Gun culture is the true problem.

I have just come to accept the fact that......




Im gonna die !
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:51am PT
Yeah, cars run so clean that you can't CO2 off yourself anymore and people are always looking at taking the easy way out. Bridges have barriers now, and even getting a pill prescription is much more difficult than it use to be.

To be, or not to be.....to bolt, or not to be....

OH, INCASE ANYONE MISSED THIS PART:
"The Slate data comes from crowdsourcing and warns that it is “necessarily incomplete.” "

I COULDN'T IMAGING CROWDSOUCING BEING UNRELIABLE.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2013 - 11:55am PT
Nice yank for emotion type of article.,.


So, there weren't actually all those people shot?

Sorry Randisi, but we're just so free that we've killed more of each other since December than the ENTIRE WAR in Iraq?

Ron, oops sorry, I forgot that gang deaths don't count. What a bunch of crap. Is it death by firearm or not?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2013 - 11:58am PT
Breathing is fatal.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:58am PT
ive been wondering about that clothed boob thread thing
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 13, 2013 - 11:59am PT
There's about 68 accidental shootings in the list. Seems appropriate to include those in this list.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 13, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
How many people died in car accidents during that same time period?

I'll bet it's more than 68.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 13, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
Yeah, Chaz, car accidents dwarf many death causes, so lets do nothing about any of them.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 13, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
Monolith writes:

"Yeah, Chaz, car accidents dwarf many death causes, so lets do nothing."


Depends on what it is you want to do? What do you think would solve the problem?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jun 13, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
The obvious method to balance the figures;

shoot bad drivers.
Friedo

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
Jun 13, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
I love when people bring up car accidents and relate them to shootings. Here's the difference. A car accident is an ACCIDENT! Nobody accidentally walks into a movie theater with an AR-15 and shoots 70 people... oops.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 13, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
Toker V. writes:

"shoot bad drivers."



We've had that program up-and-running here in CA for thirty years now.

Whenever I drive out-of-State, I'm always seeing drivers doing brainless things that would get one shot in California.
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