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bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 12, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Oh, blame it on the calluses!

But I don't know yer situation. I used to be into shreading on guitar, but I find more melodic, slower guitar work is more beautiful.

Call me a puss.

I just enjoy playing more pleasant sh#t. Usually means chord progressions at an even-keel.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 12, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
you build up muscle culture in the fingers from climbing that works against you for guitar playing,

you use your hands to make the music, so if you have fingers developed for climbing, then it is like doing brain surgery with boxing gloves on,

bike riding does the same thing,

the best players use a very light, delicate attack,

watch Duane Allman, Ritchie Blackmore, Clapton, same thing,

some people can play with bad fingers, Roy Clark was a boxer for a while, look at his hands, and he plays mandolin!

same with Bill Monroe, used to make extra money at gigs by offering the fans a boxing match for 5 dollars, screwed up hands but he still played great mandolin, i guess you have to work around it,

if you want full dexterity, you have to avoid building houses and being a blacksmith,

you want thin, bony fingers for playing good guitar, not swelled up knuckles and arthritis


Andres Segovia used a jack hammer in his spare time?

no, but he did slam his fingers while closing a sticky window one time, Billy Gibbons cut his finger open while getting into a can of hot sauce,
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
May 12, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
"Here come old flattop he come groovn' up slowly."
Or, for the purists,
"Up come a flattop he was movin, up with me..."
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 12, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
Climbing a lot never affected my friend in the Seattle Symphony - you shoulda been a trombone player.
Hell, he barely needed fingers except to turn the pages!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 12, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
I've two professional classical guitar playing friends. They ain't goin' cliamberin' no how, no way!
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
May 12, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
fer sher.

murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 12, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
I've two professional classical guitar playing friends. They ain't goin' cliamberin' no how, no way!

Yeah, it's a little tough keeping up the long fingernails.

Like Sprock says, my stiff, fat knuckles are a bit of an issue, and I do play better with a few days off from climbing. I mostly fingerpick these days, on Chinese Martin copies.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 12, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
just stuck an XLR jack into the DIY Princeton Reverb in place of the instrument #2 jack so i can play harp and guitar at the same time without the sound guy screwing up the mix,

that is an L & G 12 string,
Epiphone SG with rewound pickups,

a 6 string with a DIY wound pickup, i used 18,000 turns of #48 so the leakage capacitance cuts out all the high end that you do not want, sounds better than the overpriced Fishman stuff,

on the left is a DIY baritone git tuned to open C for the McMurtry stuff like St Mary's of the Woods and Levelland, going to wire in a DIY Neve input tranny into the Princeton for a mic input transformer, there is a DIY output transformer in there also with 40 percent screen taps, (Ultra Linear they call it)

using reverb and vibrato for the acoustic gives you the Fred Neil sound,

DIY guitar rack holds the harps and capos upstairs,

grill cloth on the amp is a climbing shirt that was too small bought from an online Tribal company and thats enuff braggin for 1 day,

oh, and a Sambos coffee cup on the upper right full of Earl Grey
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 13, 2013 - 12:06am PT
the best players use a very light, delicate attack,

watch Duane Allman, Ritchie Blackmore, Clapton, same thing,

Listen to the Dr. on this....
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 13, 2013 - 12:59am PT
oh i know there are some heavy handed players out there, but remember, Stevie is using navy ropes for stings, i believe that is a 012 on there but he tunes to E flat,

Jimmy Page can get real heavy also, same with Pete Townsend,

now if you use a light attack, you only get 50 millivolts from a humbucker, a heavy attack will generate 4 times that voltage, so you then have signal to noise problems, that is why Blackmmore is so amazing, he uses a noisy single coil strat thru a 200 watt Marshall but with a light attack, very hard to do, like controlling an elephant,

Tony Iommi uses an extremely light attack because of his artificial fingers, i think he strings up with 008's on his SG,

when Billy Gibbons saw Duane, he changed from a heavy to light attack and his playing went up a notch,

check out how light Duane is,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JibT2wcZKms
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 13, 2013 - 01:28am PT
Nay.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 13, 2013 - 10:57am PT
Was that Largo playing bass? Damn!
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
May 13, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
I mostly play acoustic now with my 1978 Guild D-25 (back when Guilds were good, before being bought out by Fender). I jam with my buds once a week at the coffee shop, I'm pretty much a banger with heavy touch and a voice like Joe Cocker these days.

I've got a Jap Strat, but I've got to agree with Locker, those SG's are about the sweetest thing going for an electric. Although, one of my buds just got a cherry red 335 that is "just lika ringin a bell!"
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 13, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
oh i know there are some heavy handed players out there, but remember, Stevie is using navy ropes for stings, i believe that is a 012 on there but he tunes to E flat,

Jimmy Page can get real heavy also, same with Pete Townsend,

now if you use a light attack, you only get 50 millivolts from a humbucker, a heavy attack will generate 4 times that voltage, so you then have signal to noise problems, that is why Blackmmore is so amazing, he uses a noisy single coil strat thru a 200 watt Marshall but with a light attack, very hard to do, like controlling an elephant,

Tony Iommi uses an extremely light attack because of his artificial fingers, i think he strings up with 008's on his SG,

when Billy Gibbons saw Duane, he changed from a heavy to light attack and his playing went up a notch,

check out how light Duane is,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JibT2wcZKms

The doc speaks the truth.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
May 13, 2013 - 10:31pm PT
I remember when Jack Bruce was doing a lot of climbing and playing, then they had the farewell show and he never looked back. Was He glad? Time will tell.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
May 14, 2013 - 12:40am PT
I definitely notice that my fingers are tight after climbing. I can still strum and stuff, but fingerpicking and such, not so much.

Recorded this today.
http://www.reverbnation.com/jasonchinchen/song/17294714-trying-to-run-away
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
May 14, 2013 - 12:47am PT
Yes, sort of.

And a little banjo, piano, bass and drums.

I am in desperate need of a backing band here on the east side for gigs. I have some friends that will play but I need gigging musicians. Badly. I can book gigs but can't find musicians willing to do work.

I also host an open mic here in Bishop: If you are a musician and in the area, please come down and join us! Good times and great music.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 14, 2013 - 06:51am PT
It's a fact you can't be a great musician and a great climber at the same time for very long. climbing gives you too many tendon issues over time. i strive to be ok at both. I certainly could not play a gig after a hard day of climbing.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
May 14, 2013 - 08:10am PT
Mort Hempel.

Joe Fitschen.

And granted, Joe took up a career which was not centered on rock (or jass or schwing), while Mort merely held Pratt's rope on Crack of Doom...

wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 14, 2013 - 09:47am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]Mild RA,35 years of swingin a hammer,40 years playing guitar,climbing actually helps.I am still a hack though.
Nice,Chinchen!
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