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Burch3y

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Original Post - May 12, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
Morning Gang,

I was taking a break, strumming on the old guitar, and the thought crossed my mind. Unless I'm crazy, it seems like the tougher my fingers get (callus, tendon/ligament strength, etc) for climbing, the crappier I get at guitar. It could also be a function of just practicing less because I'm climbing more, but it seems like they just don't move or feel like they used to on the strings.

I'd be curious to hear, especially from those climbing for many years, if you've got any similar experience. Guitar, piano, whatever. I know there are tradeoffs when you climb a lot, like my foot-modeling career is OVER.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 12, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Oh, blame it on the calluses!

But I don't know yer situation. I used to be into shreading on guitar, but I find more melodic, slower guitar work is more beautiful.

Call me a puss.

I just enjoy playing more pleasant sh#t. Usually means chord progressions at an even-keel.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
May 12, 2013 - 02:29pm PT

Been climbing a few years...

Guitar for 53 (Started at 5)...

Occasionally when the callouses build up I just use some fine sandpaper to smooth them out...

Or go, "SLAB" climbing for the same results...


Should add that right when I get back from a day of climbing, if I go to play a few rips or so, that YES, then I DO feel it in the hands and fingers...

But a few hours rest and they're back to their, "normal"

;-)



EDITED:

I kind of "Backpeddled" that one, too!!!...

LOL!!!...

The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 12, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
I always figured I was sacrificing some speed and dexterity when I climbed a lot, but the relaxed state of mind and focus more than makes up for it.

I gotta agree with blue here - speed isn't that important, for me - I'm more into rhythm, melody and tone.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 12, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
ive found that being crappy - it hardly makes a difference. Viva la callous!
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
May 12, 2013 - 03:35pm PT


^^^

LOL!!!...

What answer can beat that one???...

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 12, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
you build up muscle culture in the fingers from climbing that works against you for guitar playing,

you use your hands to make the music, so if you have fingers developed for climbing, then it is like doing brain surgery with boxing gloves on,

bike riding does the same thing,

the best players use a very light, delicate attack,

watch Duane Allman, Ritchie Blackmore, Clapton, same thing,

some people can play with bad fingers, Roy Clark was a boxer for a while, look at his hands, and he plays mandolin!

same with Bill Monroe, used to make extra money at gigs by offering the fans a boxing match for 5 dollars, screwed up hands but he still played great mandolin, i guess you have to work around it,

if you want full dexterity, you have to avoid building houses and being a blacksmith,

you want thin, bony fingers for playing good guitar, not swelled up knuckles and arthritis


Andres Segovia used a jack hammer in his spare time?

no, but he did slam his fingers while closing a sticky window one time, Billy Gibbons cut his finger open while getting into a can of hot sauce,
Burch3y

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
I think I like this "play slower" thing, seems to fit as you mellow (hopefully) with age anyway. My flatpicking is definitely not what she used to be - probably helps that I'm not trying to play some screaming guitar solos.

What are you guitar players messing around one, anyway? I've got an old Big Baby Taylor I got used on craigslist, the humidity in Mexico rusted the hell out out of the hardware, but it's good a great sound for what it is - made before they started making them down in Mexico, actually.

My pride is this old flattop (with a crack) Crafters of Tennessee, thing is a cannon.

Credit: Burch3y
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
May 12, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
"Here come old flattop he come groovn' up slowly."
Or, for the purists,
"Up come a flattop he was movin, up with me..."
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
May 12, 2013 - 08:16pm PT

"What are you guitar players messing around one, anyway?"...

I switch between too many guitars...

But lately, focusing more on the Gibson SG (Humbuckers) through a piece of sh!t CUBE (That little CUBE is actually a screamer!!!)

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 12, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
Climbing a lot never affected my friend in the Seattle Symphony - you shoulda been a trombone player.
Hell, he barely needed fingers except to turn the pages!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
May 12, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
The evening after climbing might be a little rough, but I never notice any problems playing a guitar because of callouses. I do fingerpicking/flatpicking/nosepicking.

In fact, people often think being a guitar will somehow help climbing finger strength, but the opposite is true.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 12, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
I've two professional classical guitar playing friends. They ain't goin' cliamberin' no how, no way!
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
May 12, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
fer sher.

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
May 12, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
Giving up ice climbing is a good idea if you want to have fingers that are able to do more than being smashed to a pulp and frozen solid...
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 12, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
I'm playing a '69 Martin D18 or a custom dreadnought with a cutaway, birdseye maple sides and back and an old growth redwood top. I'm a lucky guy - they're a couple a honeys.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 12, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
I've two professional classical guitar playing friends. They ain't goin' cliamberin' no how, no way!

Yeah, it's a little tough keeping up the long fingernails.

Like Sprock says, my stiff, fat knuckles are a bit of an issue, and I do play better with a few days off from climbing. I mostly fingerpick these days, on Chinese Martin copies.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 12, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
just stuck an XLR jack into the DIY Princeton Reverb in place of the instrument #2 jack so i can play harp and guitar at the same time without the sound guy screwing up the mix,

that is an L & G 12 string,
Epiphone SG with rewound pickups,

a 6 string with a DIY wound pickup, i used 18,000 turns of #48 so the leakage capacitance cuts out all the high end that you do not want, sounds better than the overpriced Fishman stuff,

on the left is a DIY baritone git tuned to open C for the McMurtry stuff like St Mary's of the Woods and Levelland, going to wire in a DIY Neve input tranny into the Princeton for a mic input transformer, there is a DIY output transformer in there also with 40 percent screen taps, (Ultra Linear they call it)

using reverb and vibrato for the acoustic gives you the Fred Neil sound,

DIY guitar rack holds the harps and capos upstairs,

grill cloth on the amp is a climbing shirt that was too small bought from an online Tribal company and thats enuff braggin for 1 day,

oh, and a Sambos coffee cup on the upper right full of Earl Grey
Credit: Dr.Sprock
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 13, 2013 - 12:06am PT
the best players use a very light, delicate attack,

watch Duane Allman, Ritchie Blackmore, Clapton, same thing,

Listen to the Dr. on this....
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 13, 2013 - 12:40am PT
the best players use a very light, delicate attack,

Roolz are made to be broken:

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