Stepping on the Rope OK?

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Kurt Ettinger

Trad climber
Martinez, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - May 10, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
I always thought this was poor etiquette. So last night I was told by an (ahem)experienced climber that "when climbing on multi pitched routes outdoors I have to do it all the time". He then proceeded to tell me of some belay technique he used which involved stepping on the rope. So am I behind the times on this thinking of avoiding rope stepping?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 10, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
trollin trollin trollin,, keep the doggies rollin RAWHIIIIIIIIDE!


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labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
May 10, 2013 - 07:23pm PT
No

Maybe sleeping on it is ok........
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 10, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
It is an old wifes tale that stepping on the rope will ruin your rope, work dirt into it and make it so weak that you will die. in real life the rope wears out from the friction of rapelling , lowering and falling. a little bit of dirt has no tangible effect on this process. Long after the rope is retired from climbing duty you can still drag huge oak trees out of the woods with it. Logging really works the dirt into the rope ;)
Fletcher

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
May 10, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
I've slept on my rope before! Not comfortable and no, I was not getting kinky that night... just was a bonehead and somehow forgot my sleeping bag! Doht!

Eric
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
May 10, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
One of the things which I recall from my first day climbing is "never throw a good rope in the dirt, and never step on the rope."

Don't tread on my rope.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
May 10, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
AS long as it's YOUR rope you step on, it's ok.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 10, 2013 - 08:35pm PT
just don't do it with crampons on!
10b4me

Ice climber
Soon 2B Arizona
May 10, 2013 - 08:35pm PT
just was a bonehead and somehow forgot my sleeping bag

I would never do anything like that :-)
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 10, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
I have used my rope as a pillow quite a bit over the years.
it is critical to keep the rope away from chemical contamination which makes the parking lot a band place to dump the rope at the end of the day while you look for the car keys. Reguler dirt is not a big deal. it washes off when you get caught in the rain or go ice climbing;) i ty to not step on the rope but out of courtesy but do not have a fit when someone does. I remember a few BINTD cursing and throwing bad vibes out there at the noob who stepped on the rope. Just big fish in small pond puffing out their chests..... In reality it does no real harm to your rope.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 10, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
actually crampons don't do anything to the rope unless you put it on the pavement and stomped the crap out of it. crampons on snow does absolutly zero damage to a rope.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
May 10, 2013 - 08:41pm PT


I don't intentionally jump up and down on it while it's draped across a sharp edge...

But if it's where I am going to step...

I step away...
johntp

Trad climber
socal
May 10, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Just try not to do it when the leader is making a dyno. Things could get testy.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 10, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
I don't think this is a troll. It's a pretty good example of one of those old practices ('wives tales', if you must) that has been fairly debunked in recent years.

If someone has demonstrated science showing how Rope A, subjected to heinous trampling abuse, consistently failed well before Rope B, treated with princess-like care, I'd love to see it.
jabbas

Trad climber
New River, AZ
May 10, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
I just scream and then remember Kern -Mantle ... no problem. If ropes were that fragile we would all be dead or mangled. I still tippy toe about the snake pit !!
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
Nevada City
May 10, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
stepping on rope, ok. puking on rope, not ok.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
May 10, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
actually crampons don't do anything to the rope unless you put it on the pavement and stomped the crap out of it. crampons on snow does absolutly zero damage to a rope.

This might -might- be true of an unweighted rope on unconsolidated snow, however, I would never consider this to be true of a weighted rope on a harder surface, such as ice. A sharp edge, like many crampons are, can cause a weighted rope to separate instantly. It's usually rock edges, but it is the only reason for a good rope to fail in something like 30 years internationally, I remember reading at one of the certification sites.

Get above me, and get a sharp metal edge near my weighted rope, and I'll consider it attempted murder.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
May 10, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
It's better than stepping on yer dick
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
May 10, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
Please step on it again. NSFGFA

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tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 10, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
how the heck would you step on a weighted rope? HUH? Never stepped on a weighted rope in 30 + years of climbing.... never seen a weighted rope get stepped on.
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