New Siskiyou County and Castle Crags Guide Book


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Social climber
Mt Shasta, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - May 10, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
Hey folks,

I finished the first edition of my guide-book. I'm experimenting with distribution right now so I put it on EBay at a fixed price and $4 S&H.

A bit about it:
It covers the entirity of Siskiyou County, including Cecilville, Lover's Leap Limestone, and local crags. Additionally it covers Castle Crags.

I have been working on it for about 2.5 years. It is full color. Aerial photos of Castle Crags (no small expense). I've interviewed several retired climbers (into their 80s, and their widows). Several routes / areas never before published. Lot's of climbing history of the Shasta Area. Especially those hard men you've never heard about. Photos from the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and today.

I'm listing 20 on Ebay, but I have ONLY 800 left in my garage (hahaha!). Not sure if it will work, if it doesn't you can PM me. Sample pics below.

Thanks guys,

Front Cover
Front Cover
Credit: doktor_g
back cover
back cover
Credit: doktor_g
Credit: doktor_g
Sample 1
Sample 1
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Sample 2
Sample 2
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Sample 3
Sample 3
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May 10, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Cool. Here's the ebay link:

You might want to consider Amazon and have them handle fulfillment.

Mountain climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
May 10, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
WOW. . . that looks really nice. I've spent several years in that area, too. Good luck with it.


Social climber
Mt Shasta, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
Thanks QITNL I forgot the link.
I'm considering the fulfilment by Amazon and already have it posted, just not sure I want to figure it out.

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
May 10, 2013 - 06:58pm PT

disregard, 20 is quantity
Mark Rodell

Trad climber
May 10, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
Way to do it,Doc. How many routes in total?
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
May 10, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
Looks GREAT!

Ice climber
Soon 2B Arizona
May 10, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
^^^ +1

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
May 10, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
Looks really cool!! good luck with it!!

Social climber
Mt Shasta, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2013 - 04:44pm PT
Mark - There's about 250 - 275 routes total spread over the areas pictured.

Going to the post office tomorrow if anyone else is interested.
Sorry about the less than subtle bump.


Trad climber
CA Central Coast
May 13, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
that's my home town...that guide looks killer!

I found it on Amazon but Amazon says: "We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock." Work blocks eBay : (

Best of luck, I will try later for sure.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
May 13, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
I just ordered one, thanks G.

Pees on beard to seek mates.
May 13, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
Awesome! For many years, I've heard tons of good things about the climbing up there. Can't wait to have 30 bucks to spend... In the meantime... Big bump! Hope you sell the first 25 and then some. You might try emailing Carolyn and Planet Granite to see if they want to stock some in their shops.

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 13, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
that is Fantastic!

now they were talkin bout closing Castle Craggs State Park, i hope Mr Brown has put that aside?


Trad climber
Chester, CA
May 15, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
Just bought my copy! Thanks Grover!

Sonoma County
May 15, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
Right on Grover. I met you several months ago up at 8 mile boulders.

Will shops up there have it? If not, I'll probably order one.

Plenty of crags I haven't checked out yet.

Social climber
May 15, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
The book looks great-- I've spend some time climbing up there and am going to order a copy.

Social climber
Mt Shasta, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2013 - 03:18am PT
@Paul: thanks bro. Looking forward to returning the favor...
@Dr Sprock: The park owns zero cliffs, IIRC. All the climbing is either private or National Wilderness. The park closures for budgetary reasons only make the CDT walk a little farther
@Split: I remember you and your gal. Glad you reached out as I'd lost your contact info.
Looking forward to seeing you again. Yup the 5th Season will carry it. Amazon soon.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
May 17, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
Nice Job on the new guidebook, got mine yesterday.

The pics/topos are excellent, enjoyed the historical section and lots of routes/beta
that had not been previously published.
So much great rock in The State of Jefferson.

Grover have you any Trinity Alps beta to share? Or will they always be a word of mouth only deal?

Thanks doktor g


Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
May 18, 2013 - 11:06am PT
Looks good Grover. I'd like to buy one as someday I hope I can climb there again.

Would you ship to Ireland?

I posted the following on the Sonora Pass guide thread

Just as an aside, the same is probably true with Castle Crags.

Returning from a road trip from BC and WA, my late brother Mac and I probably did some FAs (about three, several pitches around 5.5 or so) in summer 1971. All along the Crags trail. They didn't looked like they had been climbed on. Who knows?

And in 1973, my high school climbing partner (a year ahead of me so he was now going to Humboldt State), I thumbed up to Arcata and we drove to Castle Crags and spent seven days (his Spring break) climbing. I was comfortably leading 5.9 (sort of) at that point and several 5.10s under my belt.

I know for certain we did one three-pitch 5.8ish FA as the cracks were dirty as hell, a lot of gardening. Castle Dome area. (Our second day there.) Going back to camp (are there still free showers there I wonder), we did this two-pitcher (5.7?), but it had some slings and several pins on it and was clean.

At the bottom of Castle Dome, a five-pitch crack/face, fairly clean but no signs of pro or previous ascent. It was tough on a couple of pitches, so I reckon 5.9ish, but I never was good at grading a route. (that took a day and a bit of the fourth.) Ran out of crack, and the above face was bit too featureless for us, and didn't look fun anyway

A short one-pitch that was effing hard, at least 5.9+. Castle Dome area. (fourth day)

Another one-pitch (about 80') toughie (5.10a or so???) that needed cleaning on the southern end of the crags. (fifth day)

On a slab along the Castle Dome tail, we did a 5.7ish one-pitch (about 90'), placed three bolts for pro (we only had taken five 1/4") and two for the anchor to rap. Drilling bolts are so damn time consuming by hand). (fifth day).

That was the seven days and the bit below. We did a couple of other routes 5.6-5.8 that looked like they had been done before. (First day.)

Again at the southern end we started a route (sixth and seventh days) (went up about two pitches and it started getting both late and dirty.) So back along 299 (via 5) to the sea.

We went back for three days later the following weekend and finished it, ended up four pitches and I'd say 10a.

The third day, we did what I assume was an FA along the trail. Two-pitches, not to dirty, about 5.7/5.8. But it could have been done before.

Had to head back to Arcata as Steve had class the next day.

We had names for the routes, wrote them down. But I have moved so much since 1977 (California, France, Ireland, England, Wales) I have lost a lot of papers, photos, clarinet stolen off the back of a moving van, etc etc. I'll try to think of the names. Steve may remember or have them written down, but he has been in Alaska since 1975 and I haven't seen him for years.

And we never any rattlers encounters. This was Spring 1973

I always wanted to return (will someday) but started concentrating on the Valley and Meadows. I also wonder what the Trinity Alps are like for climbing. I'll google it.

I am curious about those routes. I googled Castle Crags Climbing Guide but could not find an entry/link. There must be one as there is a hell of a lot of good rock up there.

Perhaps I'll start a thread asking about a Castle Crags guide, there must be one by now.
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