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brassmonkey

Trad climber
Phila
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 22, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
A5 ledge
A5 ledge
Credit: brassmonkey

I found an old A5 double ledge for somewhat cheap, but the current owner knows very little about it. Any chance some of the big wall historians who are up on their history could give me some info on it? Year, pros/cons for that year, model, etc? It looks like it might be from '96ish but not sure. Lastly what I should be ok with paying (it doesn't have a fly)...

Its either this or a new Metolius double pro dealed for $500 with shipping.

Thanks!!
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Mar 22, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
Middendorf posts up here, don't know if he was still making them when this model came out. He built some pretty solid gear fer sure.
Peace
Nilepoc

Big Wall climber
Tx
Mar 22, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
I spent a few nights on one of those last year. Solid ledge a bit diddly to assemble. I learned to set I up on the wall so take that with a grain of salt. The on I was using had a north face logo, but the same colors. It's a good ledge in my limited experience.

I have seen ledges of that vintage with a fly go for less than 500$

If you can get it for 200 I say buy that sucker.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Mar 22, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
I had one of those. It's a good ledge.
brassmonkey

Trad climber
Phila
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
Middendorf was just the man I was hoping I could get to chime in. I got it down to $300 so far but I feel like even that is overpaying a bit. Save $200 and buy a bit of a relic or pay a bit more while getting a super deal on a brand new ledge? Decisions, decisions...
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Mar 23, 2013 - 12:25am PT
Middendorf was just the man I was hoping I could get to chime in.
I don't know if you tried PMing him, but http://www.supertopo.com/inc/view_profile.php?dcid=OD0_Ojk_OiU,
Jerry Dodrill

climber
Sebastopol
Mar 23, 2013 - 12:30am PT
I've got that same ledge, or close to it. Its a solid rig and as I understand it, lighter than most current double ledges. Yeah, a little learning curve to setting up but not bad.
Adamame

climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 23, 2013 - 02:52am PT
Is that the alpine version with 6 pole sections or regular with 10 pole sections? I've used both. The Alpine is 9"s narrower and is a little tight unless both people are skinny or you are with your sweetie.
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Mar 23, 2013 - 03:54am PT
That one was built by my first team at North Face soon after I sold the assets of A5 Adventures to The North Face in 1997 and whence I became a Senior Product Manager at TNF. Brian Smith, Jason and I built that one. It is the Alpine Double, much like the ones that Luke at Runout Customs is now building with my advice and specs.

Send more close up details of the labels, corners and other features and I can probably even tell you the month it was made, as we were constantly making micro improvements in the 12 years of my work and development of the modern weatherproof portaledge (every ledge branded with A5 prior to 1999 i personally had a hand in building).
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Mar 23, 2013 - 04:04am PT
ps. looks like you got the suspension rigged all wacky on that one. extend all the straps and think about where the longest ones should go (outside corners), etc.
brassmonkey

Trad climber
Phila
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2013 - 08:09am PT
Well I'm a rather skinny,short man at 5'6" so as long as I'm not climbing with a fatty it shouldn't be too bad.

John, thanks for the heads up on the rigging, it looked a bit wacky to me too. I haven't seen it in person yet, that is just the pic the owner sent me. Ill see if I can get some more pics today.

Any ideas on price? Not trying to low-ball him either.

Oh yeah and if anyone has a fly that would fit this lying around hit me up...
Captain...or Skully

climber
Mar 23, 2013 - 08:24am PT
EBay has one come up now & again. Put an alert on it.
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Mar 23, 2013 - 11:21am PT
The last one sold on Ebay went for 299 which i think is a steal. The A5 Double or the Runout Customs Double Portaledge is the best ledge I have seen for more Yosemite and Zion applications because they are so light.

Also, a handy tool some people might know about on eBay.

 search for what you are interested in
 in the left column click "more refinements" then "show only" then "completed listings"

It will then show you recent completed auctions for the item you are interested. This is very useful for no overpaying or setting the price right if you are selling.

I have more beta in the SuperTopo Guide To Online Auctions For Causes and Non-Profits
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Mar 25, 2013 - 10:16am PT


A5 double ledge with fly, high bid is $150.
RJNelson

climber
A few different places
Mar 25, 2013 - 10:52am PT
Please don't bid on that ledge. I was hoping to get it. I need one for the valley this season. Help a dirtbag save some coin on a much needed piece of gear.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 25, 2013 - 11:04am PT
quote is:
"Please don't bid on that ledge. I was hoping to get it. I need one for the valley this season. Help a dirtbag save some coin on a much needed piece of gear."

Sort of cheat the seller out of the money it should be selling for you mean? How do you know she doesn't have cancer or some other terrible thing in her life, and need every cent she can get?
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Mar 25, 2013 - 11:08am PT
I would bid at least $350 if you want it. Don't worry, I won't bid!
RJNelson

climber
A few different places
Mar 25, 2013 - 11:22am PT
It's actually a guy. I've spoken to him personally via email. I'm not trying to cheat anyone. Look at what those went on eBay for in the past. With its condition of fly I believe that $200 is a fair price. $150 is "current bid" not my max.
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