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DSY

Boulder climber
Berkeley to Seattle to Reno
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 5, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
Hi everybody,
I am a boulderer who just moved back to California from Seattle and Reno. The wife and I just got a dog so now we need to find campgrounds in California that are poison oak free, because I'm severely allergic to poison oak. Campgrounds near decent climbing would be great but not necessary. We are just looking for places where we can have the dog with some isolation and without the worry of me coming down with 3 months of itching. I figured the Supertopoans would be the guys to ask because you guys have so much experience in California. We are based on the Central Coast so campgrounds near the Central Coast would be especially appreciated. Beer to any contributors!

Thanks,
Dou
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
yer gonna die
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Mar 5, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
The central coast is tough for severe PO allergies. I'm in SLO and get it from my dogs all the time- it's sort of a minor irritant for me, I don't get the running pus and swelling and all that. It's pretty much the beach and above about 5000 feet to avoid the oak, or the desert. The other problem is that the state parks absolutely hate dogs and will summarily execute you for an unleashed dog. Check out the USFS areas above Fresno (and above 5K feet).
adam d

climber
CA
Mar 5, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
Not for camping, but the bouldering at Lizardsmouth in Santa Barbara is amazingly P.O. free.
DSY

Boulder climber
Berkeley to Seattle to Reno
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
Thanks for the helpful responses everyone!

I've been back for about 18 months and have avoided poison oak so far by sticking to high altitude and to the desert. Also avoiding it selectively climbing in Santa Barbara and around slo.
But the 6 hour drive to Bishop is getting old and finding someplace we can camp but necessarily climb close to slo would be fantastic.

Anyone have beta on the poison oak status of Toll House Rock and areas like courtright dome? I hear the pinnacles are really bad for poison oak but what about other areas near big sur?

Santa Barbara beach camping last weekend was a disaster with the dog chasing a ball into poison oak while I was still setting up the tent!

Thanks again, Firestone Velvet Merlin on me!
Dou
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 5, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
Come to the Black Canyon, we only have poison ivy.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:25am PT
Personally, I think it is everywhere in that central coast area and a dog will likely find it. Seemed like most trail adventures involved the sighting and/or active avoidance of the dreaded weed. I have gotten that sh** on me from the dog, crashing my mtn bike into a patch, accidentally sliding down a ravine into a patch and probably other ways. I have totally convinced myself that I am highly allergic to it.
Moving on to Colorado, I remember starting a climb in Boulder Canyon I think where the first few moves traversed above a heathy patch of the noxious weed. I distinctly remember being unusually gripped on easy to moderate face moves. Felt like I was traversing over some type of horrid death flake or a molten volcano.
enjoimx

Trad climber
Yosemite, ca
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:43am PT
Courtright is poison oak free....beautiful place to climb. lOVE love it there. I need to get back there.

Edit: go to courtright. You won't regret it.
willybeamin

Trad climber
Ventura, CA
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:44am PT
I have to echo some other poster above: "You're gonna die!"
Anyhow, onto more constructive help, I lived in SLO for 4 years, and live in Ventura now and I have a giant, curious hound dog infatuated with me scratching like a crackhead after she gives the oak...sh!t is miserable as you know.

I'm sad to say, in all my exploring up there, I didn't find much P.O. freedom in the central coast other than climbing in SB up on Cielo Camino (Lizard's Mouth, Brickyard, etc.) Its unfortunate, because I'm sure we share a joy in being able to bring our pooches along for the journey. Additionally, Natn'l Parks are very dog unfriendly and some of the State Parks are as well.

Scope out some of the primitive campgrounds up on the ridge above Highway 1 (in Big Sur off of Nacimiento-Ferguson Rd.). Its a helluva view. Its high enough up that there isn't much PO and you stay out of the marine layer, but BYOwater, etc. Best of luck. Send a PM if you're in the Ventura/SB area...
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:53am PT
Wagon Wheel.
Near Ridgecrest and Trona
primitive camping.

Airport Rocks in Apple Valley.
very primitive camping

Ghost Rocks,
near Landers.
Primitive

If you do any sport climbing New Jack city would be good.
free camping covered picnic tables and firepits
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:53am PT
+1 on leash, it's the only sure fire way to keep em out of the green stuff.


Some areas you can take the dog to on leash and then let them go if they don't wander far off, and still avoid PO, but altitude, east side and desert are key.


Pinnacles is not dog friendly even if it didn't have PO. You can't take them on the trails.




Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:57am PT
The Poison Oak, she is a bloomin' as of just this last week in the Vacaville hills.

Bad time of year for the afflicted.


P.O. in the Vacaville hills.
P.O. in the Vacaville hills.
Credit: Salamanizer



Hey Cosmic, where's Wagon Wheel?

Ya ever explore much around where the Fish Heads are? Anything good? Drove by there a while back and thought there might be a thing or two lurking around there.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Mar 6, 2013 - 01:05am PT
Your dog will be able to find PO at Tollhouse, but it's not as bad as the central coast.

Others have said it: above about 5000ft in the Sierra is the place to be. There are a lot of options on the east and west sides. Courtright is great, but not until the road opens.
10b4me

Boulder climber
Lost
Mar 6, 2013 - 01:22am PT
Pine mountain?
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Mar 6, 2013 - 01:24am PT
nice call 10b
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Mar 6, 2013 - 01:28am PT
"Ya ever explore much around where the Fish Heads are? Anything good? Drove by there a while back and thought there might be a thing or two lurking around there."


If You are talking about the fish heads on the road between Ridgecrest
and Trona, the yes, Salamanizer. that's called the poison canyon area.
there are a few good climbs right off the road there.

Wagon wheel is on the road between Randsburg/Johanasberg and Trona



Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Mar 6, 2013 - 01:31am PT
Pismo Beach
Arch you glad to be at the beach?
Arch you glad to be at the beach?
Credit: Spider Savage
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Mar 6, 2013 - 02:10am PT
Wagon wheel is on the road between Randsburg/Johanasberg and Trona

Ah yeah, pretty sure I know where that is.

And yeah, the fish heads between Ridgecrest and Trona on Hwy 178. There's so much rock out there. Kinda like having JTree all to yourself.

Trona Fish Heads
Trona Fish Heads
Credit: Salamanizer
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Mar 6, 2013 - 02:40am PT
Yep. that's the fish heads.
Them fish have been there for a LOOOONG time.

This climb,Flatfingers, is in the canyon just to the west of the fish heads on the S side of the road.
FA early 70s by me and one of my climbing partners
Credit: Cosmiccragsman

and right across the road is this face with about 3 climbs
one of them is callet birdshit crack


DSY

Boulder climber
Berkeley to Seattle to Reno
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 07:49am PT
Awesome replies everyone!

Last weekend the plan was to go up to pine mountain because I know it is poison oak free but the road was closed. Cue a night spent with drunken rednecks hollering all night in the reyes creek campground. I am definitely psyched on courtright!

Still debating going with the sure thing in bishop next weekend vs. Checking out horse flats etc. Do non climbers head out to horse flats at all?

Thanks,
Dou
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