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The Granite State.
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 6, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
I'm selling my Chevy 1500 pickup. I figure I can get 5k for it.

I want an AWD wagon and am torn between a Subaru and an Audi.

Any input on what's the better bang for the buck at 5k?

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Feb 6, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
Brandon, I just bought an Outback last Wednesday..a 2012 with only 15K miles on it. It's my second one...I bought a new one back in 2000 and still have it.....almost 200k miles and still runs great!

This new one is SWEET! Gets 30+ miles to the gallon, and is super comfortable to drive.

The Audi AllRoad is a sweet vehicle..but spendy.

Mountain climber
Feb 6, 2013 - 07:45pm PT
subis are the everyday mans audi. if we could all afford audis we'd all be driving them.

The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
200k is encouraging, the tranny blew on my old '95 Legacy wagon at exactly 150k.

My brother is an Audi mechanic, so an a4 Avant isn't out of the question at my price.

Anyone own an Audi Avant?

I'll probably go with the Subie, but still...Audis are pretty sweet.

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Feb 6, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
I came close to pulling the trigger on the Allroad..just could not find a slightly used one, and the new ones are close to 40k.

I got the Outback for 24K....slightly used is a great way to save money, and the thing is absolutely showroom perfect.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 6, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
You'll go broke trying to properly maintain an older Audi cause you're knott
gonna be able to do sh!t yerself.

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Feb 6, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
The Allroad biturbo can be a bit of a science project according to my Audi mechanic. I just picked up a very clean A4 Avant and love the damn thing. AWD all the time, handles like a dream. Few blind spots...if you want a wagon, these things are pretty cool.

.....in a single wide......
Feb 6, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
I can speak about Audi's to the extent that I'm now at 140K on my 07 A4 S Line

Greatest car I've ever owned by far.

Reilly is right, tho. I've dropped $6K in repairs in the last year. And I've got a fairly low cost mechanic. It is time for me buy a new rig.

The new Audi Allroads are not the real deal in terms of dirt worthiness. They dumbed it down compared to the excellent '06 Allroads (that suffered from some serious mechanical issues of it's own). But for driving on pavement, it's the bomb.

Sub Outback sure seems like the perfect allarounder these days. My cousin - who can afford anything and drives an Audi A4 Avant- is buying an Outback this weekend. I am still leaning towards a Toyota Tacoma 4 x 4 of some sort...


Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
new Audi allroad is soccer mom orgasm, Americanized (read: no manual transmission option, no diesel option)

I looked closely at it, even wanted to buy it at one point, but eventually declined the honor of ownership.

I'm now looking at a BMW wagon, even though the ground clearance is poor. Most of the stuff I do is basically all-weather but paved.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 4, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
Someday I will face this decision, as my '02 Saab 9-5 turbo wagon won't last forever, and sadly they arent making any more. I've got 146k on it. 46k more than when I bought it in '10. I'm hoping to get a decade out of it.

Here's what you can do!l

Petition Audi and demand diesel Manual tranny allroads!! Buy them, and take meticulous care so there is a selection of quality used ones for doddering offwidth climbers like myself to buy!

Though the Hartouni diesel jetta wagon is pretty sweet too......
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 5, 2013 - 01:56am PT
probably not going to happen...


I do still love my jetta sportwagen...
29,000 miles and a cumulative 42.46 mpg...
average price per mile is something like $0.097


Trad climber
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:12am PT
I have had two outbacks. No breakdowns, have spent 5 nights sleeping in the back already this year, run in snow better than my 4Runner (until it gets really deep). I have snow 6 months a year at my house. I don't think I'll ever be without an outback anymore. Why spend more for anything else?
John M

Apr 5, 2013 - 02:16am PT
Anyone have a honda CRV?

I don't fit very well in the outback. I don't drive like a bat out of hell. I just want something dependable that goes well in the snow and gets decent gas mileage. I like the more upright seating of the CRV.

I currently drive a 1988 nissan pathfinder. Not great on gas mileage, but decent in the snow. My driveway gets deep. I know the CRV probably wont make it up it in the winter.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated. The audi and the jetta are way out of my price range. I'm looking at a 2004 CRV.

Apr 5, 2013 - 02:22am PT
Brandon look at these few items to replace on an Audi.

Headlight. 750.00 if you only need the igniter part and not the whole headlight. The whole headlight is around 1100.00

Sunroof repair motor. 1200.00

It's a great brand but fixing them and repairing or maintaining is big bucks.

Wait to,sel you truck,till next year.

Dodge is coming out with the 1/2 ton diesel 3.6 liter I believe. 35 mpg.

Social climber
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:22am PT
We have an Audi A4 wagon. My wife drives it, and does indeed use it to take the kids to soccer and baseball! Anyway, great in the snow, but I wouldn't take it places that I would take a Subaru. Fun as shite to drive fast when the kids are not on board. Maintenance is not cheap but I had a bad Subaru experience so I'm not complaining yet.
2 l l

Sport climber
Rancho Verga, CA
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:28am PT

Big Wall climber
Sierra Madre & McGee Creek, Ca.
Apr 5, 2013 - 10:30am PT
If money isn't an issue (yeah, I know) BMW will have a diesel all wheel drive 3 series wagon out in the fall.

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 5, 2013 - 10:35am PT
I never had a problem with my Subaru. I only sold it because I was tired of not having AC

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Apr 5, 2013 - 10:40am PT
Then. . . there's always one of these:

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Trad climber
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:13am PT
If you get a Subie, I'd get an automatic. Google "Subaru clutch shudder" and you'll see the problem I and others have had with the Outback wagon.
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