Michelle
Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 30, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
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BSA is currently conducting a poll regarding a change in current policies. Call 972-580-2330 and vote to end the ban.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jan 30, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
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Sigh. Why join an organization that has been around for a very long time, that is known to not accept homosexual individuals?
It's their right to refuse people. They shouldn't be pressured into changing their ways, no matter how you feel about them.
Join another organization.
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Cosmiccragsman
Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
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Jan 30, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
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"Join another organization"
The Girl Scouts.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 30, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
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Yeah forcing those Diners to serve folks was bad in the 60's too eh?
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Chim-Chim
climber
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Jan 30, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
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Mr. Slippy Fist
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toadgas
Social climber
los angeles
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Jan 30, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
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i think their vision is for separate "Gay Scout Troops"
must keep the gays and straights segregated sorta thing
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jan 30, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
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*ba dum peeeeeshh*
But no, seriously. I'm not homophobic or anti gay, but I just can't see why would you want to join an organization that doesn't want you?
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Michelle
Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
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Wow, really?
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jan 30, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
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Wow, my opinion, really?
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Michelle
Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
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I suspect many children who start the path don't have a clue about their sexual orientation.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
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but I just can't see why would you want to join an organization that doesn't want you?
Too change it into a great experience for all.
Once it changes, and it will, then more folks will have the fantastic experience of Boy Scouts. Both sides will benefit.
So let's get this change done and buried in the past as soon as possible.
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toadgas
Social climber
los angeles
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
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maybe the first priority though is getting scoutmasters who grope lil boys OUTTA there
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Chim-Chim
climber
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
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Cripple Fight
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
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The BSA is a horrible, horrible organization... at least in Utah. No self-respecting person would ever expose their kids to that bullsh#t.
Homoclimbtastic is a WAY better organization.
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moosedrool
Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:06pm PT
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Yeah, they should also accept girls in the Boy Scouts. hehehe
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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Get rid of the boy scouts all together...
Girls scouts get a "PASS" for the future, and their COOKIES...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:13pm PT
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I say that Scout leaders should take a leadership course through homoclimbtastic.
Not that they really deserve to have as much fun as it must be there.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
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"It's their right to refuse people."
That's true...the SCOTUS confirmed this right, and they stuck to their policies.
Their recent announcement of a potential/likely reversal of this policy is clear evidence that they are reacting to the will & interests of their members, and the society of parents who are considering whether the BSA is the kind of organization they want their kids to be associated with.
Like so many other archaic socially conservative (aka retarded) practices that have existed in our country, this one appears destined for the dustbin of history. It's about time.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
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I suspect many children who start the path don't have a clue about their sexual orientation.
Well, statistically, most people are straight (somewhere between 75% and 99%). So I suspect that someone who has not yet discovered their sexual orientation can still make a fairly good guess about it. Then again, if the 25% gay rate among males is true, the BSA is probably already 23% gay.
As to joining an organization that doesn't want you, everyone has the right to tell other people what they want. It's part of their freedom of speech. If someone wants to change the Buy Scouts of America to accept gays, that is there prerogative. Their reasons for this are their own and they have already decided that they want to be in an organization that doesn't want them.
Heck, it is part of our very political process to try to change the organization instead of leaving it. People don't leave the USA because the laws don't work like they want; they try to change it. Why can't the BSA be the same?
Dave
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John Butler
Social climber
SLC, Utah
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Jan 30, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
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darn busy signals...
must be a popular poll... or a shortage of lines
:-)
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