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nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 26, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
Aperture or Lightroom 4?

I have a 30 day trial on Lightroom. not stoked I can't easily import from iPhoto.

Aperture no longer has a trial. It's a little less expensive though.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
I only use Photoshop but I have sure read plenty of glowing reviews of Lightroom.
Not so many of Aperture.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
yeah, I'm leaning more towards Lightroom. I found it for $89. Photoshop is $400 so I probably won't look that direction. Seems like Lightroom is geared towards my needs.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
Get photoshop! It's worth it.
DonC

climber
CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
I am a long time Aperture user and am in the process of moving to Lightroom. I wish Apple would pay more attention to Aperture but they are not. Their focus these days is with consumer applications and Adobe is eating their lunch at the professional level. Lightroom has lens correction, graduated filter, and other features that I like. There is a 10:1 user base for Lightroom over Aperture and many training resources available.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
It's not worth it if ya don't need it. ;-)

If you just want to crop, adjust contrast, saturation, and sharpness
then I believe Lightroom will do nicely by Nature, or vice versa.
weezy

climber
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
another vote for lightroom. i don't even use photoshop anymore since lightroom pretty much does everything i need it to do, but i don't do anything crazy with my photos too often (HDR, etc). i really like lightroom's tagging/keyword system, too.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:13pm PT

It's not worth it if ya don't need it. ;-)

If you just want to crop, adjust contrast, saturation, and sharpness
then I believe Lightroom will do nicely by Nature, or vice versa.

True. Although if I never had photoshop then I would never know I needed it! If you're not doing HDR type stuff it's probably not necessary.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
Adobe is Photoshop lockernewb

Lightroom is also a Adobe product.

Photoshop CS6 BTW runs $699. I don't need to do 90% of what Photoshop can do.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
Mikey, dearest, life wouldn't be worth living without Photoshop cause it
seems I have a predilection for the Screaming Sensor Meanies on a regular
basis so I do a lot of cloning. The other huge reason is that I have the
Nik Effects Color Filters plug-in. Yeah, I'm totally a cheater. I swear,
I'll quit as soon as I get my Phase One, I promise!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
And Lightroom which is what donc was referring to.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
No, Photoshop CS6 is pro level (whatever that means).


It's Apple's product Aperture that's not getting the support it needs.


So it's settled... that was easy. Lightroom it is. Now... how do I push these million buttons to make it do what I want? Seriously... suggestions on tutorials, online classes, kindle books?

This is fun. I've been working my way through a Kindle book on using the S100. What an impressive little camera. The underwater housing just arrived as well. I'll probably get away with a pretty sweet under water rig for around $1K including fish eye and strobes.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
It's simple and yer a smart feller: RTFM


















Sorry, I couldn't resist. I have no clue about Lightroom. :-)
Gal

Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
hey, just to confirm your decision, LIGHTROOM!!! It's great...

...sometime, grab a beer, give me a call, I'll tell you some of the basics to get you on your way-just give me a little heads-up time...
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
Dude (not Gal)... If I had a Manual I'd Read the F'ing thing ;-)



OK Lightroom junkies... easiest way to manage photos in iPhoto to Lightroom (and possibly back)?
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
nature, I love Lightroom. Its easy importing from where your photos are already for iPhoto. Just leave the photos where they are when you create a catalogue, and don't duplicate or move them.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
Cloning! Cool, I do that but I didn't even know it ;) so much to learn.

My favorite new technique is taking bracketed shots and then combining them manually as different layers. Sometimes I cheat too and use the HDR program but I tend to dislike the blurry effect from them noise reduction so I usually combine the original image with the HDR skies.

I don't know Lightroom but it should have a levels option in the adjustment tab maybe? Very useful. Saturation should be in there too and sharpen should be under filters or something?

There is lots of info available online so go read up a bit but mostly just play with it and see what things do to get a better feeling for it.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
kunlun_shan - the problem I'm running up against is iPhotos are stored in "Library" which is a hidden directory. How are you working around that?


Yeah, all those controls are there. Now to figure out which ones work best to compensate for my lack of talent ;)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
I bet there are you-know-what piles of youtube tutorials.
I'm sure there's also a Lightroom forum. DPReview prolly has book reviews, too.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
In iPhoto, look at the name of one of the photos you want to import.

Then in Lightroom, choose "Import photos from disk", put the name of the photo in search, and when it comes up select it:


Then if you click on the higher level folder above the filename, you can access all the photos in that particular folder. Here I clicked the 2009 folder for example:


send me a PM if this doesn't work. there are a couple other ways to do variations of the same thing.
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