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AZKid

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 23, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
A new short film about the Oak Flat-Queen Creek area in Arizona that is threatened by a proposed copper mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiME3XWEPjU&feature=youtu.be
AZKid

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2013 - 09:41am PT
Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-AZ) has partnered with Tea Party republican Paul Gosar in Arizona to submit new legislation to privatize Oak Flat for Resolution Copper.

This new bill would give the federally-protected landscape at Oak Flat, including thousands of routes and bouldering problems, to a foregin copper mining company.

Anyone wishing to help can do so by writing an opposition letter to Sen. Ron Wyden in Oregon, chair of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, and to new Interior Secretary Sally Jewell.
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Feb 15, 2013 - 11:30am PT
The politicians who support this should be tried for treason.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 15, 2013 - 11:41am PT
This story was on NPR this morning, rock climbers got a plug as one of the groups opposing these copper mines. Apparently copper is an endangered element, we risk running out.
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Feb 15, 2013 - 11:45am PT
F*#k copper. People need to go back to living like Indians or we are all endangered.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Feb 15, 2013 - 11:50am PT
Too much poop to live like First Peoples used to live.

Need a new way. Recycling electronics helps.
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Feb 15, 2013 - 11:53am PT
lol munge, even poop can be composted and recycled into plant food.
Lloyd Campbell

Social climber
St. Cloud, MN
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
How about those greedy mther fuers start mining responsibly instead of creating big giant toxic holes in the ground, transferring all the assets of the mine company created specifically for the purpose, then declaring bankruptcy and walking away while we all get to pay for the SuperFund cleanup???

In the case of this mine, opposition would fall off quickly if they would just mine it underground and not create the giant pit where all the climbing (2500 routes and boulder problems) used to be. Plus the legislation in question makes a land swap prior to any environmental evaluation (NEPA) being done, which means, they can pretty much do whatever they want with their (now) private land, once it's been signed off on.

How do you know a mining company is lying? Their mouths are open. Fact.
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:43pm PT


"and not create the giant pit where all the climbing (2500 routes and boulder problems) used to be"...


I am way out of the loop on Oak Flats (Was my regular crag for about 6 or 7 yrs)...

Have they already fuked up some of the rocks that had routes on them???...

Or is it still in the fighting stage of this sh!t???...

Manny

Social climber
tempe
Feb 15, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
None of the climbing has been closed or damaged as of this date. RCM has stopped operations because of falling copper prices.

Please write your congressman, it is easy to do. Just follow this link and add your name and comments specifically for your representative:
http://legiscan.com/AZ/comments/HCM2003

All of the groups opposed to the land swap, which bypasses NEPA, understand the need for copper. What is not easily accepted is RCM's mining plan to operate a half mile underground and subsequent collapse of the surface.
AZKid

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
Oak Flat is federally protected land until something changes. That's the key element of this issue, because if the politicians can undermine President Eisenhower's 1955 law that set aside Oak Flat from mining, then what's to stop lawmakers from undoing protections for other federal preserves such as national parks and monuments?

Yes this is a good time to write your senator. If you happen to live in Oregon or know someone who does, I urge you to write Sen. Ron Wyden in particular.

For anyone interested there are meetings in Phoenix coming up whee you can participate. The Concerned Climbers of Arizona are meeting at Boulders on Broadway in Mesa on Feb. 20 at 5pm. There will also be a public meeting with Resolution Copper in Queen Valley on March 7 at the rec center from 4-7pm.
AZKid

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
locker - Please take a look at the short film listed above for a current take on this issue. Everything it says applies to this latest land exchange bill.
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:04pm PT


"None of the climbing has been closed or damaged as of this date"...

Fewwwwwwwwww!!!...

Super GLAD about THAT!!!...






EDITED:

AZKid...

I'll view the entire clip later this afternoon...

Only watched a very small portion so far...

THANKS!!!...

AZKid

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
Locker- you're welcome and feel free to pass along the film.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 16, 2013 - 08:02am PT
Bump
AZKid

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
As expected, the Queen Creek Coalition is supporting the new mining proposal at Oak Flat.

Climbers who oppose the mine should take a look at the Concerned Climbers of Arizona or otherwise make their voices heard so that the world knows that not all climbers would like to see this mine developed.

Here's the link to QCC's site with their statement:

http://www.phoenixrockgym.com/qcc/qcc_news_currentupdate.html
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:41pm PT


"the Queen Creek Coalition is supporting the new mining proposal at Oak Flat."...


$$$...

the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Feb 24, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
Thanks for sharing this well done film.

After spending several days there last summer on a wildfire, in temps
well over 100 (F), it was shocking to see the pic of that black bear. Neat!

I like copper. I use it all the time in my daily life. In the past I enjoyed
exploring underground copper mines.

While I am not particularly fond of the climbing at Queen Creek, this
project seems like a bad idea.

Let's work to protect Queen Creek from mining.

Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Feb 24, 2013 - 04:53pm PT
Commenting is easy and appropriate.

I use copper too, but,

find someplace else to mine, Rio Tinto!
AZKid

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2013 - 04:54pm PT
Thanks Albatross. That fire must have been hellish to fight. Thanks for your work in containing it.

Copper is so key to our modern lives its ridiculous. There's actually a good book that tackles this issue that came out recently called "Boom, Bust, Boom" by Bill Carter. He covers the mining issues in Arizona including Oak Flat, also the Pebble mine in Alaska. But contrasts that with using copper in everything he does.
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