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Chim-Chim

climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 5, 2012 - 07:53am PT
Anecdotal and clinical evidence has proven the efficacy of this miracle of nature. Don't be fooled by the flu shot claim. D.K.
locker

Social climber
Douchebag Central
Dec 5, 2012 - 07:54am PT


They meant, "Dingle Berries"...


Not Elderberries...
Chim-Chim

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2012 - 07:57am PT
Locker brush out your beard.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 5, 2012 - 08:28am PT
which seems to reduce the symptoms of flu...
...so for those of you who do not get an immunizing shot and think about going this route, here is some information:

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/elderberry-002880.htm

I'd rather not treat symptoms...
locker

Social climber
Douchebag Central
Dec 5, 2012 - 08:31am PT

"Don't be fooled by the flu shot claim"...

PLEASE elaborate...



EDITED:

ZINC about it for a while first, before you post...
darkmagus

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:22am PT
I'm still going with rampant hand-washing as your best non-pharmaceutical bet.
locker

Social climber
Douchebag Central
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:23am PT

^^^

+1

Chim-Chim

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
Flu shots can give you the flu. It's a risk, that give pharm-busineess mega bucks. Better to have a good immune system which elderberry has bben proven to do. Peace
BurnRockBurn

climber
South of Black Rock City (CC,NV)
Dec 5, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
Chim. Did you get a big harvest this year?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 5, 2012 - 03:19pm PT
Flu shots can give you the flu.

There is absolutely no way for the flu vaccine to give you the flu. People need to stop propagating this myth.
Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Dec 5, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 5, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
Dan, Are you by chance selling elderberrys?
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Dec 5, 2012 - 07:31pm PT
Randisi...LMAO!!!
Chim-Chim

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2012 - 07:23am PT
The harvest was weak... no water for the plants to produce a good crop. I've got syrup at Sports ltd. I make batches fresh each week or so. Kenny, frozen elderberris can be puchased on-line from farms in the mid west.
erosey

Boulder climber
Chapel Hill, NC
Dec 9, 2012 - 06:56am PT
You can also buy elderberry juice and medicinal syrup online at http://elderberrylife.com. I think that they get their berries from the Midwest farmers that you mentioned.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 9, 2012 - 10:49am PT
Influenza (inactivated)
Contraindications: Anaphylactic reaction to a prior dose of the vaccine or any of its components (e.g., eggs)
Precautions: Moderate or severe acute illness

Influenza (LAIV: live attenuated influenza vaccine)
Contraindications:
 Anaphylactic reaction to a prior dose of the vaccine or any of its components (e.g., eggs)
 Chronic illness of pulmonary system (including asthma or Reactive Airway Disease), or cardiovascular system; metabolic disorder (e.g., diabetes); hemoglobinopathies (e.g., sickle cell disease)
 Immunodeficiency
 Aspirin or salicylate therapy (children & adolescents)
 Pregnancy
 History of Guillian-Barré syndrome

Precautions: Moderate or severe acute illness

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/vac-admin/downloads/contraindications-guide-508.pdf


for Elderberry (symptom relief)
Precautions:
 Herbs can trigger side effects and interact with other herbs, supplements, or medications.
 Do not use unripe or uncooked elderberries. They may be poisonous.
 Few side effects when used properly for short periods of time (up to 5 days).
 Pregnant and breastfeeding women should not take elderberry.
 If you have an autoimmune disease, such as rheumatoid arthritis or lupus, you should ask your doctor before taking elderberry, as it may stimulate the immune system.

Possible Interactions:
If you are being treated with any of the following medications, you should talk to your health care provider before taking elderberry:

 Diuretics (water pills)
 Diabetes medications
 Chemotherapy
 Laxatives
 Theophylline (TheoDur)
 Drugs that suppress the immune system. These medications include corticosteroids (prednisone) and medications used to treat autoimmune diseases. People with organ transplants should also avoid elderberry.

Source: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/elderberry-002880.htm
Fletcher

Trad climber
The rock doesn't care what I think
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:45am PT
I thought that this was going to be about skiing Elderberry Canyon on Mt. Tom as a way of getting over being sick!

Eric
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:48am PT
Let's leave hamsters out of it, OK? They're cute, but we've had enough of them lately.

Eating fresh fruit and vegetables is undoubtedly good for one's health, in the general sense. Getting a flu shot will actually reduce your chances of getting the flu.
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