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shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 4, 2012 - 11:16pm PT
Some of you may have sen my inquiries for a partner for the Real Nose, a Grossman/Cole line from the 80's. Although i found a partner, a job offer and subsequent bad weather forced a halt to my attempt this year. Today i walked up to the base to jumar and retrieve my lines which i had fixed straight down from the top of the 5th pitch, and descending through Rock Neurotic, a scary Dave Caunt testpiece. I was shocked, dismayed, bummed and pissed to observe that the bottom 3 lines were gone. apparently, sometime in the last month, a person, or persons had ascended my lines and stolen them.

it really blows. here i was to strip my own lines, having driven up from oakland for the day, to find that some climber/s had basically robbed me. thank you douchbag. i mean, just think of the bad karma involved...a climber ripping off another climber...would somebody actually use these in good conscience.

so, i am looking for clues. if anybody has walked by the base of el cap between the nose and mescalito in the last month, did you see or not see my lines on rock neurotic, and what date did you see or not see them? Please post up. also, has anybody seen 3 white static ropes, a 30meter rope, a 60 meter rope, and a 70 meter rope. they are 11mm statics. espirit if i am correct. they are old and cable like, difficult to rappel, but bomber never-the-less. They do not have factory ends, but rather are lighter melted, and have adhesive tape marking with the length of the rope marked in pen on the tape(probably stripped) by now. My culprit profile(having watched too many episodes of law and order), is a solo male climber, maybe foreign, kind of keeping to himself, with no responsibilities or alliances to anybody, and maybe in camp four right now. To my friends and aquaintances in camp 4 and on rescue, feel free to probe around, but please, no vigilantism. if you suspect somebody, tell the climbing rangers and let them deal with it. The culprit is guilty of stealing $500 worth of rope in a federal park, which i believe is like a full on felony.

I spoke on the phone with climbing ranger Jesse McCaughey(sp?) today and he is heads up on the situation. as far as he knows this was not the act of a ranger removing fixed lines, and he is making a few calls to verify that. Jesse is a great guy and was instrumental in helping me get back some fixed lines i had on el cap before and had been dropped and abandoned on the ground by another party. This last september i had a haulbag stolen from the top of the first pitch in Lost in America, a brown metolius half dome. anybody got any beta on that? is was when andy kirkpatrick was fixing on the trip that it was apparently stolen. Is somebody out there with a vendetta against me?

What i would really like to just happen is to have my ropes returned to me, without all the rangers getting involved. so, if the person/s who bootied my ropes is reading this, i will offer you an out. i know personnally what it is like to be a dick and feel bad for it afterwards(see Wings of Steel). If you return my ropes to me, or offer me a satisfactory monetary compensation, AND a personal apology to me, then i promise to forgive you and that will be the end of it. No rangers, no prosecution, no big deal.

REWARD OFFERED To anybody that gives information leading to the arrest and prosecution of said culprit, I will pay them a reward of $100.

Sincerely, Steve "Shipoopoi" Schneider, Oakland, Ca

REWARD RETRACTED ok, that's just my wanker self getting ridiculous. i hope interested people might check out suspicious stuff for free.

10/11/12 ROPES RECOVERED. Two days ago i was contacted by the party that removed my ropes. They were NOT STOLEN as i thought, but were part of a misguided attempt to clean up what they perceived as garbage. The party intends to get my ropes back to me. i am happy about that, and especially glad to know that my ropes were not poached. The party said if i had just left a note, they would have left my lines alone. ss
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:26pm PT
Karma?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1690491/Steve-Shipoopoi-Schneider-needs-to-feel-the-SHAME-of-WoS







Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:29pm PT
ROFL @ Karma comment
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 11:36pm PT
granite, i wish i could respond to you, but i do not know who you are. damn, i just DID respond. lol
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:38pm PT
Sounds like surfers have transitioned into the climbing world.



graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:38pm PT
Just think of the bad karma involved...

The culprit is guilty of stealing $500 worth of rope in a federal park, which i believe is like a full on felony.

I spoke on the phone with climbing ranger Jesse McCaughey(sp?) today and he is heads up on the situation. as far as he knows this was



Tell, you what ShitPOOPoi, before you go all "CSI" and "Law and Order" on us, why don't you face up to your own sh#t first.

Turn yourself in for defecating in public, malicious destruction of property, and harrassment/vandalism, etc. and repay your victims in cash with interest for the damage you caused them, and then we can talk about who may have packed out your trash for you.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:39pm PT
Poopie, the Karma thing in your OP *is* one for the ages.

As an aside, the cops don't give a sh#t. Gear left over 24 hours is abandoned property.

Too bad though about the missing ropes etc. Good luck.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:40pm PT
^Always good to hear the voices of moderation.
^^Always good to hear the voices of moderation.

graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:40pm PT
granite, i wish i could respond to you, but i do not know who you are. damn, i just DID respond. lol

You must have posted this while I was posting my follow-up.

But if you did respond, what would you say?

Your initial post just shows such an astounding lack of insight.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:41pm PT

^Always good to hear the voices of moderation.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:42pm PT
Nope. The entire "karma" and "what goes around comes around" argument is invalid.

It was invalidated when Steve faced up to what he regreetted doing and apologized to Mark and Richard, and asked them to forgive him. It was further invalidated when Mark and Richard did indeed forgive Steve. The case has been closed.

Forgiveness is freedom from burden, and all involved in the WoS sh|tting episode are accordingly freed.

Good luck getting your ropes back, Steve. It will suck having to lead those pitches again. However I may be available in the future ... {wink}
caughtinside

Social climber
Oakland, CA
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:43pm PT
Wings of steel lives!!!!111
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 11:44pm PT
granite, if you identify yourself, i can respond, otherwise...
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:48pm PT
Steve,

Do not be concerned with nameless, faceless and dickless detractors, for they carry no merit nor credibility.

You are as real as they come.
Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:48pm PT
Word.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
I'm not real interested in what you don't even want to say.
















If you really want your ropes, start checking Valley dumpsters.






John M

climber
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:51pm PT
So Graniteclimber.

what do expect him to do? He apologized. The apology was accepted. Does he owe you something? Did he harm you in some way? Whats up?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
Yes, there's nothing like having Graniteclimber trying to rough up your balls after he massages his own.

So "Granite" do you still have to hide under your rock of "I'm all that and I have really climbed things beyond some 40' slab" in Josh to feel you matter ?

Please, spare me the withering keyboard comment from that digital comfort station you hold between your legs.

Who could stand the assault of that so strong brain of yours ?
Silver

Gym climber
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:55pm PT
Welcome to the 4th grade. Way Homo!

graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:01am PT
First this:
a 30meter rope, a 60 meter rope, and a 70 meter rope.

they are old and cable like, difficult to rappel, ... They do not have factory ends, but rather are lighter melted,


Then this:


The culprit is guilty of stealing $500 worth of rope in a federal park, which i believe is like a full on felony.

If you return my ropes to me, or offer me a satisfactory monetary compensation, AND a personal apology to me, then i promise to forgive you and that will be the end of it. No rangers, no prosecution, no big deal.

REWARD OFFERED To anybody that gives information leading to the arrest and prosecution of said culprit, I will pay them a reward of $100.

Are you f*#king kidding us!?

You left TRASH up on the wall for a month or more and someone removed it.

If you find the GOOD SAMARITAN who removed this garbage, you should write him a personal thank you note and offer him compensation for his efforts.

As it is, you are threatening criminal prosecution if your "culprit" does not pay you $500 in cash. Your ropes, which you admit are old and worn out, are not worth anywhere near that much. Also for you to threaten criminal prosecution if you don't get paid what you think you are owed is EXTORTION in California.

So by making the original post in this thread you have committed a felony.
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