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Moof

Big Wall climber
Orygun
Nov 19, 2012 - 07:02am PT
Please, let Texas leave. Give all those who want to stay US citizens 12 months to renounce Texas and cross the border.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 19, 2012 - 09:04am PT
It's part of being Texan. They have to pretend like they want out every few years.....

But 100,000 isn't a big enough piece of their 25,700,000 to take it too seriously.

What would they call themselves? The Individual States of Texas?
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 19, 2012 - 09:04am PT
My take on it is revoke the citizenship anyone's who signs the petition and then boot them out of the country.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 19, 2012 - 09:53am PT
We need Texas because they are one of the positive net taxpaying state. The nation has to support the negative net states, most of which are red states, Alaska is prominent on the negative list
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Nov 19, 2012 - 09:55am PT
Well, they've done it before. :)

Also, it's not that Texas wants to leave. Even Gov Perry says he's against it (now, recall before he seemed to indicate he'd be okay with it). Some citizens started a petition and they got enough signatures that it requires a response by the govt.

Many other states have the same thing going on - citizens starting petitions. That includes the Red states, but also some fools in Colorado and other places.

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:15am PT
I heard Texas is the only red state that pays more fed tax than it receives.

A measly $1.06 for $1 returned. Let em go. They cost the us a lot more than they are worth. They give us republican lawmakers. 23/ 32 congressmen and both senators. 38 presidential electoral vote.

I have also heard that they are the only state with the right to secede.

Hasta la vista baby.

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:26am PT
Crimper, the petition thing is not a goverment function, it is a Whitehouse project, if a petition gets 25k signatures then the president will respond to it.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:34am PT
We get all the good surf, and the best granite too.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:40am PT
Many states have signed petitions to succeed havent they?


And if you ask me its GOOD to see the states saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! What happened to states rights-- Ron Paul wanted to know and wanted to transfer back the power that the feds have stolen from them. This is a form of protest.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:44am PT
Not the successful ones
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:45am PT
Good riddance, but maybe we can work out a deal to keep Austin
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:46am PT
I signed the Texas petition. I hope they and the rest of the confederacy don't let the door hit them on the way out. Let's see how they like paying for their own goddamm stop signs.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:54am PT
Som,e of you seem to take it personally that states are unhappy.. Did you think this was going to magically change after the election?? Un employment and foreclosings are going up in many states- i know they are here in NV.

And WHO wants a law like the NDAA 21013 shoved on em?? Certainly no one that enjoys freedom,, freedom of speech , internet forums and the like.


Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:10am PT
Less than a week after a New Orleans suburbanite petitioned the White House to allow Louisiana to secede from the United States, petitions from seven states have collected enough signatures to trigger a promised review from the Obama administration.

By 6:00 a.m. EST Wednesday, more than 675,000 digital signatures appeared on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states, according to a Daily Caller analysis of requests lodged with the White House’s “We the People” online petition system.

A petition from Vermont, where talk of secession is a regular feature of political life, was the final entry.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/white-house-secede-petitions-reach-660000-signatures-50-state-participation/#ixzz2CgYnmQLP
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:19am PT
Ron, here's a primer on the subject.
http://f*#kthesouth.com/

adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:21am PT
Fun as it would be to let them secede, the 1869 US Supreme Court case Texas v White established no state has the right to unilaterally withdraw from the union. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
John M

climber
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:26am PT
And WHO wants a law like the NDAA 21013 shoved on em?? Certainly no one that enjoys freedom,, freedom of speech , internet forums and the like.

I don't like what that says either, but if Red states think that they would be getting more freedom, then they probably need to do a reality check. Just like they needed a reality check when Obama won even though every last one of their polls said Mitt would win and many of them said by a land slide. They even said Mitt would win the popular vote and he didn't do that either. So their heads are basically up their asses. The Bush government pushed through one of the most restrictive new sets of laws and government entities in many years, the Patriot act. Gave it a nice pretty name though. I feel like I'm being disloyal if I'm against the "PATRIOT ACT".

So if they think that their Republican leaders are for freedom, then they got a surprise waiting for them. Their Republican leaders are for giving the leadership the freedom to do whatever it wants. Not for the populace to have freedom.

Lolli, I'm certain that you are aware, but that original letter was written as a joke to counter all the Red states saying how terrible blue states were. Red or Blue, I hope we don't really go down this path.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:32am PT
Cousins squabbling over panty knots.

Same as it ever was...........
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:33am PT
Kinda like running away from home when you're a child, and hiding in the neighbor's yard for an hour or two.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:36am PT
No one thinks the republicans will do any different in regards to the NDAA. This has been an on going effort by both parties fro many years to obtain executive powers. Its not a red or blue issue. Its an issue of the fed govt obtaining powers that they were never meant to have. Powers that were used by such countries as NAZI Germany, N Korea, even Russia.

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