Is ti OK to be proud to perform better than your kids?


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Trad climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 10, 2012 - 02:31am PT
I can (sometimes) climb, sweam, ski, etc, better then my already grown up kids. And I am, at 58 years old, very happy to beat them when I can! Is that wrong? My offspring supposed to be better tham me!
But I am equally happy when they beat me!
Did I mentioned I love them...

Trad climber
Oct 10, 2012 - 04:17am PT
I'm 58 and pretty much still out perform my 22 year old daughter. But she did whip my ass last time we went to a climbing gym. Give her a few more years and I'm sure I'll be happily surpassed in all my endeavors, skiing, trad climbing, kite surfing, cycling, earning capacity, etc. ha She is well on her way....
The user formerly known as stzzo

Sneaking up behind you
Oct 10, 2012 - 09:46am PT
Are you proud that you beat them? Or is it more that you are proud that you still have some performance in you?

Trad climber
Oct 10, 2012 - 09:56am PT
I for one think some (read most) kids need a good beating!

When they start beating you there is always cheating....


Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Oct 10, 2012 - 09:59am PT
^^ Perhaps. But then again, maybe yer kids are just let'n the ol' man win every once in a while! ;)

Either way, sounds like a healthy relationship! I'm sure there proud of ya and you of them. My suggestion, it won't last forever, so get it/do it while ya can. It sets a good example, and will give them something to shoot for with their offspring!

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Oct 10, 2012 - 10:18am PT
Don't worry, it's temporary. Enjoy it now, cause when you are wearing diapers and pissing every 5 minutes because your prostate has grown to the size of a plum... They will whoop you at everything.


Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Oct 10, 2012 - 10:43am PT
Healthy competition is a great way to bring up kids (and young adults).
Someone has to set the bar, why not you!
I wish my dad had stayed strong in his 50's. it would have been so much more fun.
Keep it up!

Trad climber
East Coast US
Oct 10, 2012 - 11:23am PT
Of course. I've got 16, 13, and 10 year old kids. I'm smashing them at everything I possibly can right now because I know the time is coming where they'll be kicking my ass up and down the basketball court, ski slopes, and cliffs. However, I have already compiled volumes of excuses that will be kept at the ready.

"Sun was in my eyes"
"I had to sneeze"
"My Depends were bunched up"
"The Geritol just kicked in"
"I fell and I can't get up"

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Oct 10, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
The Great Santini would agree with you.

the last bivy
Oct 10, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
Im better than my kids at lots of things like whitewater boating climbing skiing moutaineering. For a mom in her 50's excelling over three boys in their 20s that's pretty damn good skill level and fitness wise.
What I've done during the years is downplay the competition, no gloating or chest beating or razzing, but instead mentoring when asked, supporting and pointing out their various strengths. Consequently we do a lot of things together for the laughs and good times. Consequently they have great relationships with each other. And they treat others well in similar situations. You might have met my son Adam at the Facelift or in JT. During Facelift he did his first Yosemite leads on Munginella, After 7 and Jam Crack. I was stoked!! they were beautiful leads with good placements, in the right places with the right slings and great anchors. Must say it took a load off knowing he's not gonna die!

so, my 0.02 is leave out the competition. A think a better experience is had overall. Besides, next week one of them will kick my ass at something else, like sport bike racing or the snowboard park, the slackline etc . This might be mom's vs dad's way but I've never seen a competitive family atmosphere work very well overall.

Oct 10, 2012 - 02:41pm PT
I can't touch my 13 year old and my 10 year old boys in climbing. They pretty much crush me...

I can hold my own with them skiing but that won't be long either..

I still have my 6 year old daughter to beat up on though!!!

Trad climber
Oct 10, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
Lucky Pink just says that because she is apparently, a bad ass, and is winning in her family....

She even had to get on here anf GLOAT!!!

Good on you LP!

Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 10, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
It sounds like LP's sons are also gentlemen.

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Oct 10, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
It is OK to perform better than your kids, set good marks for them to aim at AND show them good sportsmanship/mentoring. Eventually, they will find something where they will out perform you, and you get to demonstrate how to do that graciously and enthusiastically, too.

My son ran cross country in high shcool. He ventured into the road race scene and never beat his mom. Of course, I strategically picked races that favored experience and enthusiasm over raw speed!!!

My baby girl could never outrun me either. However, she learned to swim late and was outswimming me virtually immediately when we were going for our scuba certification. I let her enjoy those moments and proudly noted her achievements.

BTW - I'm a little old lady. I want my kids to know that success comes from a combination of talent, and hard work. Fun however comes from enjoying these activities doing the best you can given your current condition. Fun is not dependent on the numbers or winning. It is true that winning and being relatively good makes it a little easier to have fun.

Trad climber
Oct 10, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
Of course, I strategically picked races that favored experience and enthusiasm over raw speed!!!

Like I said above. Cheat if you need to....


Trad climber
Placerville, California
Oct 10, 2012 - 06:52pm PT
before i commit to a response upon your inquiry,
i must receive clarification expanding your initialism, "OK"

For thee context of your presentation offers no vernacular relation to the United State, Oklahoma.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2012 - 07:55pm PT
Thank you all for the words of wisdom!
LP, I assure you that we are equally happy winning or losing to each other. If I win, I am happy that I am still good at it. If I lose, I am a happy and proud father.
The problem with my kids is that they just donít listen to me! Example: On a beautiful spring day this year instead of going climbing with me, my daughter decided to defend her doctoral thesis. The nerve!

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If the approach is too long, I have to carry her!

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Does she even like climbing?

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Then she moved to Chicago. Whatís good in Chicago?

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From Chicago to a nearest rock is four hours driving.

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And the rock is slippery too! That was a 5.10a?????

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And what is my sonís excuse?

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Get your priorities straight, LOSERS :-D

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 10, 2012 - 08:07pm PT
Enjoy ti while ti lasts!

Like LP, I Climb and do dome other outdoorst things better than my kid, but am not competitive with her. She's an artist and sees things I don't, until she points them out to me. I've learned a lot from her over the years.

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Oct 10, 2012 - 08:20pm PT
I feel your pain.

My mantra - we all have different gifts, but can experience the same joy. I always get immense satisfaction from seeing their triumphs, especially when it does not involve any genes inherited from me.

My son can sell ice to an eskimo. I can't give away ice to a man in a desert. My middle girl can write a tale and sing like an angel. I can only repeat historical events and sing like a wounded elk. My baby swims like a fish and is an amazing artiste. I sink like a stone and got gentlemen's "c"s in penmenship (meaning no one can read my writing!!)

You combine all these family gifts - we are an awesome team. Looks like you have quite an awesome team. I spy a grandchild - bet it will be cooler for him to share fun with you.

PS - Isn't your daughter a tad old to be carried????


Social climber
Oct 10, 2012 - 09:35pm PT
hey there say, moosedrool... thanks for the neat pictures and fun...

it all depends on the ol' attitude, :)
sounds like yours is okay, :)

i remember once//, when i finally got to see my kids again (long story, as i keep away from the ex)...

well, ONE of sons, with kids of his own now,back then, went to run along south padre island, down a ways while his wife watched the kids...

i was kind of sad he did not ask me to go along... as we were close 'til the dad/now ex threw in a lot of 'warped stuff'... so, well:

i ran after him (he was in 30's, i was about 52 or something? then), to kind of share a run... :)
caught up with him, and he was surprise... but--he enjoyed it...

even took time to make sure on the way back that i kept up with him...
(he was fast, in track, and such, back in his day, even though he was what is called 'very bad pidgeoned toed' (he worked around it)...

was a very special time...
now--dancing is a whole 'other ball-game... they don't reach their, as
i had a lifetime of work, into that...
painting and photography, they very well may get there, :)
math = one is wayyyyyyyy over me, :))
fishing, due to opportunity, one is wayyyy over me, :))

thus, when rightly done:
somethings these: 'say, let's perform together stuff' make for great bonds of love, later... (like after we 'kick the ol' bucket' so to speak)...
(when wrongly done--they lead to resentment, and hostilities and then distancing)

*saw an old movie--hans breker (spell) and the silver skates..
the VERY old one, not hollywood one... filmed in holland...

the dad and the kid, has a fun challenge run, in the beginning...
usually, we are led to believe that the dad wins...

this time, just near the finish, the dad GRABS the kids clothes, and dashes ahead just in time, ...
at the finish they have a good laugh, after the kid has declared he would have won( good natured, his attitude was, as it was obvious WHY he lost)...

the dad declares, as the both laugh and walk back to the family:
i was not ready to have you beat me YET.... :)

all in the attitude, it is...

sometimes, if we are still better, in good ways, it DOES set the mark for them to reach our platform, and it is sweet when they do...

when the go OVER and make their OWN platform, how much SWEETER, still, :)

god bless

seamstress... wow, nice share... :)

oh, was just thinking, when in the kitchen, cooking:
sometimes, too, long as you have a good attitude about it:
it is NICE to have a field that you are good in, that your kids perhaps never thought to 'venture into', being that, they have a nice speical
respect for you, as to that skill...

i have seen this, as well...
the kids thus speak highly, in good form, as to their folks that have such...
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