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Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 2, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
Slow Sunday on ST & time to have fun with the haters!



September 01, 2012 11:00 am • By CHRISTINE PETERSON Casper Star-Tribune staff writer

Wolves will once again leave the endangered species list in Wyoming.
http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/feds-delist-wyoming-wolves-hunting-season-begins-oct-groups-promise/article_3cc78470-a44f-5109-80ef-5ad4188f52c7.html?print=true&cid=print

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service announced Friday that it would delist wolves in Wyoming and approve the state’s management and hunting plans.

Under the ruling, wolves will be hunted and managed in a trophy game area in the northwest corner of the state outside of Yellowstone National Park, Grand Teton National Park, the John D. Rockefeller Memorial Parkway, the National Elk Refuge and the Wind River Indian Reservation. They can be shot on sight in the rest of the state.

The ruling will be official Sept. 30, said U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe.

Hunting season is scheduled to begin Oct. 1.

Wyoming has worked for nearly a decade to delist wolves in the state. Wolves were delisted for about three months in 2008 before a federal judge placed them back on Endangered Species Act protection because of concerns over genetic diversity


Wyoming is the last state in the Northern Rocky Mountains to have wolves removed from the endangered species list.

The state is divided into three areas:

A trophy game area in northwest Wyoming in which wolves will be regulated by hunting.

A small, seasonal-game area in northern Lincoln and Sublette counties in which hunters need licenses for part of the year and can shoot them on sight as predators the other part. Called the “flex zone” it gives more protection to wolves for a portion of the year as they move between Wyoming and Idaho.

In the rest of the state, wolves will be considered predators, meaning they can be shot on sight. The plan allows 52 of the state’s estimated 220 to 230 wolves to be killed this fall in northwest Wyoming outside of Yellowstone, Grand Teton National Park, the John D. Rockefeller Memorial Parkway, the National Elk Refuge and the Wind River Reservation.


The Wyoming Legislature set aside $600,000 of general fund money to manage wolves for two years, Nesvik said.

The money will pay for costs including flights to put radio collars on wolves and monitor their distribution. It will also cover manpower needed to check each wolf killed during hunting season for a genetic sample.

No additional staff will be hired to help manage wolves. Game and Fish recently restructured its large carnivore section, combining research specialists and conflict management into one group.

It also has a full-time wolf biologist already in its budget. Managing wolves will mean more responsibility, but the group should be able to accomplish delisting goals, Nesvik said.

Wolf tags will be sold over the counter, similar to black bear and mountain lion tags. Hunters will be required to call a hotline to check on the quota for each area before hunting and report a kill within 24 hours. The areas will close when the quota is reached.

Resident licenses will be $18 and nonresident tags $180.


And in Idaho!!

From Idaho’s more liberal daily paper: The Lewiston Morning Tribune.


Wolf season is always open in Idaho
Eric Barker | Posted: Monday, July 2, 2012 5:18 pm

In a move that is sure to please many hunters and anger wolf advocates, Idaho approved new wolf hunting regulations that allow the canine predators to be hunted 365 days a year.

It is not a wide open, general hunt. But if one travels around the state, there will always be a place to pursue Canis lupus.

Idaho had allowed 10 months of wolf hunting during the 2011-2012 season, with the hunt open from Aug. 1 to March 31 in most of the state and Aug. 1 to June 30 in the Lolo and Selway zones.

That means the 2011-2012 wolf hunting season came to a close at sunset on Saturday. But under the new regulations, the 2012-2013 season opened Sunday morning.

Here's a rundown: Wolf hunting opens in the Panhandle Zone, on private land only, July 1. The rest of the zone and the rest of the state will open to wolf hunting on Aug. 1 and all but the Lolo and Selway zones will close on March 31. The Lolo and Selway zones will again be open through June.

Hunters can take up to 5 wolves per calandar year but most zones have a cap of 2 wolves per hunter, per year. The Middle Fork Zone, Dworshak-Elk City, Palouse-Hells Canyon, Lolo, Selway and Panhandle zones allow hunters to kill 5 wolves per calendar year.

So it is possible to hunt wolves year-round by starting on private land in the Panhandle Zone in July and then hunting anywhere in the state starting Aug. 1, moving to the Lolo and Selway zones on April 1 and back to the Panhandle on July 1.

Of course, if a hypothetical hunter were to does this, he or she would also have to balance when and where the wolves were taken to stay within the 5-per-calander-year bag limit and the more restricted bag limits in zones mostly south of the Salmon River.

In the hunting season that started last August and ended Saturday, Idaho hunters took 255 wolves. Trappers killed another 124 wolves in the season that opened Nov. 15 and ran through March.

That is a total of 379 wolves out of an estimated minimum population of between 700 and 1,000. However, Idaho Fish and Game officials believe the population exceeds 1,000 animals.




On the bright-side! Idaho Fish & Game is making money selling wolf hunting licenses that replaces money lost when out of state hunters no-longer purchased deer & elk permits for our wolf-depleted big-game herds.


It's game management dudes! Get over the: "I love the wild doggie-woggie" blues.


The wolves are coming for you!
The wolves are coming for you!
Credit: Fritz


donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 2, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
Delist Wyoming Republicans: more plentful, easier to hunt, tastier due to much higher fat content and DEFINETLY more in need of culling.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 2, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
It would put more spring in their step, by keeping them on their toes! I still can't imagine wyo rep despots would be good eating' though...

No wonder Wyoming had to be 'let go' from the union

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/fri-august-31-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---the-best-f--king-news-team-ever-audits-america
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 2, 2012 - 10:30pm PT
Bleeding heart liberals are easier to track, though.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Sep 2, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
That tree has been barked up before.
It's played out.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
Donini!

If we could only delist them as per your comment!



Delist Wyoming Republicans: more plentful, easier to hunt, tastier due to much higher fat content and DEFINETLY more in need of culling.





The survivors would be vastly improved by the delisting!
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Sep 3, 2012 - 12:30am PT
Talk about a stupid and wasteful use of resouces! Spend millions of tax dollars to re-establish wolves against the wishes of the locals, pushed to do so by people from out of the area who will never have to live with them, waste millions more in court fights, then spend yet more to eliminate most of them. Meanwhile lots of livestock, game, and now wolves paid with their lives. Way to go America! No wonder our economy is in trouble.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 3, 2012 - 12:34am PT
Jan,

Just think of it like the open season that has gone on for 25 years against the Humanities in education.

Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Sep 3, 2012 - 12:45am PT
Good analogy Jim!

And perhaps the one good thing to come out of this will be that the wolves will regain their fear of people and retreat to true wilderness areas and minimize their contact with us.

Still, I don't think historians will look kindly on a society that allowed 40% of its poor people to be children while it saved the wolves.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 3, 2012 - 12:54am PT
Jan!

Yes!

I appreciate your input on the subject!
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 3, 2012 - 01:00am PT
Humans are capable of but not necessarily willing to save themselves.

A bunch of animals (wolves) have no concept of commercial value regarding food that's been conveniently penned up and fed to be delicious...
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 3, 2012 - 01:27am PT
Does this mean Rokjox will be unbanned?
Jody

climber
35/53k
Sep 3, 2012 - 01:36am PT
I just drove through Yellowstone and Grand Teton a few weeks ago with a friend who lives in Livingston. Saw NO wildlife except for bison. No elk, no moose, only a couple of dear. He said it was because of the wolves that were brought into the area. They are killing everything else off.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Sep 3, 2012 - 05:58am PT
I was browsing in a library video collection yesterday and came across a video titled "Yellowstone, land of the Coyotes" and thought sadly to myself, "not anymore, they too have been decimated by the wolves".
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Sep 3, 2012 - 06:17am PT
Hey Jim, I am not a Republican, so I am safe in that sense, but Piton Ron scares, me, as I am a liberal. Will he be coming after me? Will he be able to pack his rifle/pistol on a flight to Ireland? Will Piton Ron be able to buy a gun on the market here to hunt me, a liberal? Or will he just be content gunning down liberals in the States?

Hey Ron, just trying to bring some light-heartedness to the conversation.

Clearly, the balance of nature has been upset. But by whom? The wolves? Humans? The government? Too many fat cattle?

I do not know the answer.

All I know is that I do not want a cougar staring in my window (as was posted - a photo - several years ago by a Taco Stander). Or a pack of wolves chasing me. Yet, we do have to give these creatures some space.

Do human beings have a monopoly on the earth?

Imagine, year 2200 or thereabouts, only humans and insects (and bacteria and viruses). The humans will lose.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Sep 3, 2012 - 11:18am PT
consider the fact that folks in wolf country HAVE BEEN SHOOTING them most any chances they get,( under the shoot, shovel and shut up clause) and yet they are still being taken off the listings.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 3, 2012 - 11:30am PT
Ron...If this keeps up , sledz will get de-listed....watch it...!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Sep 3, 2012 - 11:34am PT
no doubt eh! When SLEDZ get de-listed,,we are DOOMED!
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Sep 3, 2012 - 11:37am PT
Lets not have wildlife rules till the children are saved.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Sep 3, 2012 - 11:41am PT
Roxjox is having a party!
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