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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 22, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
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The Horror! When will it end?
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Feb 22, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 22, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
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DMT, I guess you've not been to Castle Rock in WA. Quite a number of trees
of that size or better were cut down BITD for better photo lines. Some big
names got some 'splainin' to do to the Karma Keeper.
But no glue-ons the last I checked.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Feb 22, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
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Could you add a topo to clarify where the lines run? I sure want to visit that area!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 22, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
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^^^ That's different! Them guys is jess lettin' a little daylight into the swamp.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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Feb 22, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
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Thats just stupid.
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Phil_B
Social climber
Hercules, CA
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Feb 22, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
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Looks to me those bolts are holding the rock in place. I'd guess it's next to a roadcut.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 22, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
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PNW people are known to hate trees.
Dude, you don't understand. Up here, the trees are winning. We gotta fight them every chance we get.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 22, 2012 - 03:34pm PT
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I know.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 22, 2012 - 03:38pm PT
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Not just the PNW, I believe Harvey had a chainsaw out at Independence Pass BITD...
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Adamame
climber
Santa Cruz
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Feb 22, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
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It also looks like Castle Rock, CA, thanks Mr. Morris!
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scuffy b
climber
heading slowly NNW
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Feb 22, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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Times are tough when you want to do a little gym climbing and you have to
settle for rock instead.
Good to see that some folks can take the initiative!
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coloradohigh
Trad climber
rocky mountain trench
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Feb 22, 2012 - 07:16pm PT
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holy hell, i mean ... the dang cliff is so perfect. it even comes with ropes!!
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slabbo
Trad climber
fort garland, colo
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Feb 22, 2012 - 07:28pm PT
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Stevie Wonder Wall
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 22, 2012 - 08:19pm PT
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Stevie Wonder? Try Helen Keller.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2012 - 10:09pm PT
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Here's another from the same place as the opening pic.
And another...
Halfway between Cliff and Reserve, NM off the less-traveled NM180 lies Catwalk National Recreation Trail. Built in the 1930's by the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) the Catwalk National Recreation Trail is a hanging walkway following the path of an old pipeline that brought water down the Whitewater Canyon to the former mining town of Graham.
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Slater
Trad climber
Central Coast
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Feb 22, 2012 - 10:26pm PT
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those bolts in the first pic are holding the rock together
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2012 - 10:32pm PT
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In places you could see physical reminders of previous attempts to secure pipelines through the canyon.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Feb 23, 2012 - 12:33am PT
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Part of this is that for the young turks, bolts are no big deal. They are wicked strong from sport climbing. Sport climbing was widely reviled when it came around.
The NERVE of somebody putting in a route on rappel.
Now 5.14 is nothing. About a zillion climbers can do 5.14 now. Hayden Kennedy is a super strong sport climber, as well as an alpinist.
Stuff like the bitchfest over Growing Up on Half Dome is just not accepted by the old crowd. Even though it wasn't a bolt ladder and scouting from the top is nothing new. Tommy is working the Dawn Wall top down, figuring out the line, and placing bolts on rappel.
You can't bolt from a stance when a route overhangs 20 degrees, and almost all sport climbs have little trad pro. If Rifle was a trad area, there would be about a dozen crappy routes and nobody would even go there. Now it is the training ground of some wicked good climbers.
It took me a while to get used to rap bolting sport climbs. The debate is over. The young climbers won, and standards of difficulty blow the old guard out of the water.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2012 - 01:50am PT
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Locker...
This quote:
In places you could see physical reminders of previous attempts to secure pipelines through the canyon.
accompanied the first picture.
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