Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 3, 2012 - 09:14pm PT
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Just curious.
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Tami
Social climber
Canada
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Were cameras involved? I thought Parkour wuzzin't Parkour unless filmed.........
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2012 - 09:17pm PT
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media kours!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Somewhere there was a report or essay about an English climber, between the wars or even pre World War I, who trained himself to descend fairly steep things by in effect 'bouncing' between walls and holds. Kind of an outgrowth of scree running and such. I don't think he had a video camera, posse, or uniform, though, so it probably wouldn't count as poseur.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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Muir wrote about running a talus in the valley. I'd think that was at least one of DR's sources of inspiration.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired to Appalachia
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Holy crap, I forgot all about talus running. Did you guys ever try it? I got pretty good at, but you had to pick you talus carefully. Not every talus field was appropriate for talus running.
Eventually I got to the point where no one - no one - could keep up with me on the downhill. You learned how to bounce and slide and stumble and just keep on going and going...
I remember the apex of my high-speed descents was a running descent of Lassen, leaping over small cliffs, glissading snow, glissading talus, running across rolling boulders... it was amazing. I even remember yelling like Speedy Gonzales the whole way down the mountain, "¡Ándele! ¡Ándele! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! Yeehaw!"
Good memories. Now I'll have to see if I can take up riding my wheelchair over talus...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2012 - 11:24pm PT
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Nice, SLR!
I always wondered if Talus running would destroy the knees, etc. Doug seeems to be doing fine.
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Tami
Social climber
Canada
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Thanks Dr.H
Yes, cameras !!!!
:-D
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Best talus run I ever had, I was getting chased by one seriously pissed-off Sasquatch.
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Rattlesnake Arch
Social climber
Home is where we park it
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Free soloing is safer..
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
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Talus running is cool. Talus running over you? Not cool.
DMT
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Scree surfing is way more fun.
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Modesto Mutant
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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We used to do talus running down Indian Canyon in the Valley without knowing what it was. For us it was more like trying to re-enact steep downhill skiing.
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Gary
climber
That Long Black Cloud Is Coming Down
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They call it Parkour now? We used to call it running from the sheriff. Of course, we did it through cornfields and creeks and such.
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Adamame
climber
Santa Cruz
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I don't think what Doug was talking about in Talus Running should be considered parkour. Parkour seems to have some pre-planinng as to what and where tricks will be performed. Talus running seems to be more about letting the mind go and submitting to the body to decide what to do without the involvement of the mind. He gave a good talk at last years Sharma Camp about how he felt the mindset (or lack thereof) of Talus Running could relate to bouldering and not over thinking a task that is at your limit. Parkour doesn't seem very spontaneous to me because it doesn't involve spontaneity in such a deep way.
As for Doug's knees, he suggested that he has a perfect body type, small, big bones, and big muscles, to weather a lifetime of talus running, tele skiing , and big packs. Me being thin and wirey he definitely noted a life of such activities would beat my body up pretty good. When I asked if tele-skiing was for me he said, "how are your knees?"
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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I believe Chuck Wilts owned the speed descent from lunch rock to the parking lot at tahquitz...I had it down to 15 minutes going for air on some of those grainy corners ...That was when i weighed only 145 lbs. RJ
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Adamame
climber
Santa Cruz
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I think this poem by Gary Snyder hits at the feeling of letting the wiseness of the body take over instead of using the mind. It's one of my favorites. I think Doug is aligned to the same feelings. But this is more of a love story of partnership with nature and also others.
Off the Trail
for Carole
We are free to find our own way
Over rocks – through the trees –
Where there are no trails. The ridge and the forest
Present themselves to our eyes and feet
Which decide for themselves
In their old learned wisdom of doing
Where the wild will take us. We have
Been here before. It’s more intimate somehow
Than walking the paths that lay out some route
That you stick to,
All paths are possible, many will work,
Being blocked is its own kind of pleasure,
Getting through is a joy, the side-trips
And detours show down logs and flowers,
The deer paths straight up, the squirrel tracks
Across, the outcroppings lead us on over.
Resting on treetrunks,
Stepping out on the bedrock, angling and eyeing
Both making choices – now parting our ways –
And later rejoin; I’m right, you’re right,
We come out together. Mattake, "Pine Mushroom,"
Heaves at the base of a stump. The dense matted floor
Of Red Fir needles and twigs. This is wild!
We laugh, wild for sure,
Because no place is more than another,
All places total,
And our ankles, knees, shoulders &
Haunches know right where they are.
Recall how the Dao De
Jing puts it: the trail’s not the way.
No path will get you there, we’re off the trail,
You and I, and we chose it! Our trips out of doors
Through the years have been practice
For this ramble together,
Deep in the mountains
Side by side,
Over the rocks, through the trees.
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