High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 1, 2012 - 08:43pm PT
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... with beta to share?
I've been researching it. And thinking about it.
It's a highly personal or subjective thing of course, but I think I'd be willing to sacrifice a few years off the bottom of my longevity if I could have more quality of life now, here, in the present, esp when it comes to outdoor adventure sports (climbing, e.g., barefoot waterskiing) and kicking the asses of punk 20-somethings in whatever.
Also, I have this nagging suspicion HGH along with Vit T, etc. are going to be standard tools for older males down the line (esp those who have the brains and discipline to qualify) when standards and the so-called tribal knowledge change (improve).
Any input welcome.
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P.S. I heard it's relatively expensive. A couple thousand a month. Can anyone verify this? Thanks.
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weschrist
Gym climber
left sac
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As your internet lawyer, I advise you to take adrenechrome.
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Donald Thompson
Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
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Here's a good book on the subject. You might want to start off with GH releasers, which are natural substances that provoke the Pituitary to secret HGH.
Remember, exercise also releases Hgh !
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~kief~
Trad climber
nor-cal
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Better living through chemicals?
Dude,....YOGA,KOMBUCHA,NO STRESS,and 8 hours sleep a night.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Supplementing T, when you don't have an abnormal deficiency for your age is supposed to screw up your natural production, leaving you either always on the supps, or worse off than before if you stop the supps.
HGH studies I've read were inconclusive.
Not up for the aging gracefully bit?
Watch a lot of porn. It boosts T. HGH? Hope you live close to Mexico or have a buddy in pro sports, or a quack doctor that will write you for whatever.
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locker
Social climber
CO
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As an internet idiot I advise you to take Ex-lax...
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Take a lot and let us know what happens. I say you increase at least 2 number grades. If you were a 5.6 climber you will definately be pulling down at least 5.8 maybe even 5.8+.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Do it in honor of the memory of Lyle Alzedo!
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bmacd
Mountain climber
100% Canadian
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quality control issues arise when one is injecting oneself with body fluids extracted from cadavers
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Donald Thompson
Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
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Do it in honor of the memory of Lyle Alzedo!
Alzedo took anabolic steroids. We're talking Human Growth Hormone here.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Oh yeah that is like two number grades per week. You will be pulling down 5.18 in approxamately 6 weeks.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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I've tried some sublingual stuff. I was part of a team selling it on the Internet about 10 years ago.
It can work pretty good. Some people have amazing results.
You could pay big bucks for an MD to inject you or you could get some at a hard core vitamin store, perhaps a reputable US Internet dealer. The site I worked with is gone.
After age 25 your body quits producing it and by 50 or so you are on your own. The book Donald Thompson recommended is the bible on the subject.
I prefer to live and eat well and let mother nature take it's course.
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Donald Thompson
Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
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HgH used as prescription injections are a synthetic substance manufactured in the lab and identical to HgH secreted by the pituitary.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Human growth hormone may cause a number of side effects for healthy adults, including:
* Carpal tunnel syndrome
* Swelling in the arms and legs
* Joint pain
* Muscle pain
* For men, enlargement of breast tissue (gynecomastia)
At least you'll be able to get a job as a pole dancer at the local Hoochie Coochie club when the pro athlete thing doesn't materialize.
You should note that while studies do show decreased body fat and increased
muscle mass, the increased muscle doesn't seem to translate to more strength...a double loss for a climber, you're heavier due to the muscle but no stronger and don't have great control over where the muscle mass is added.
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weschrist
Gym climber
left sac
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cool, someone named a player of an organized sport whose name I know from when I was 8. Go Raiders!
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Donald Thompson
Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
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After age 25 your body quits producing it and by 50 or so you are on your own.
No. You produce HgH throughout your life although it greatly diminishes starting at around age 30. In old age you are still producing the hormone but at perhaps only 5-10 % the amount you secreted at 20-25 years of age.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Sub lingual? Ah, no. Placebo effect maybe.
Some websites sell a pill form of human growth hormone and claim that it produces results similar to the injected form of the drug. Sometimes these dietary supplements are called human growth hormone releasers. There's no proof that these claims are true. Likewise, there's no proof that homeopathic remedies claiming to contain human growth hormone work.
BTW, my sources are Mayo. Not the unregulated (thanks Orin Hatch!) supplement industry or some meathead iron rat.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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HGH=Boner Pills
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Do you have to shave your chest if you take HGH?
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Donald Thompson
Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
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Anyone that knows anything about HgH knows the sublingual stuff is not effective. Its up to the individual to finds these things out and not the government. The FDA wants to make all vitamins available by prescription only.
They've been trying this for years. EU socialist drones in Europe succeeded. One needs a prescription for Vitamin C in EU countries!
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