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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:23pm PT
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Low T?
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monolith
climber
berzerkly
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:25pm PT
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Don't forget to get your calories in. Vegan food can be less calorie dense, particularly if you don't go for grains like pasta.
As for testosterone, my last test was 760, all natural, no T shots. Very high, and I've been vegan for about 15 years.
Also, stay low fat, don't eat a lot of the fatty overts like oil, avocado, nuts.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
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congrats!
I've been a Vagiterian for years, but it doesn't really make much of a difference in my weight.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
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6 days, down 10 pounds.... yer body is dying. Try a pullup in 12 more days and then go get a burger.
Vegans are always light in the sac.... low T is the big problem with the nuts and berries gang. Look at them Eldo Prancers. Not a strong nut_sac swimmer amongst the lot of them.
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monolith
climber
berzerkly
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:28pm PT
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Cool, it's the protein myth and the ya gotta eat meat for testosterone myth.
Get enough calories, and you get enough protein.
As for T, see my post above and I don't eat hardly any nuts, berries.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:32pm PT
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The Prancers eat tons of ChinNuts™ and they are still on the low end of T. Go figure....
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
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Very cool good luck!
The way that can be known is not the way.
Hey russ up for a pullup pull off with a 28 year "veggie" vet?
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:34pm PT
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Sorry Jay, you are not Vegan. Seen you pound pescado. Fake veggies are a dime a dozen, and retain their strength.
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Gary
climber
That Long Black Cloud Is Coming Down
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Dec 19, 2011 - 02:35pm PT
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You want to have a pull off with Russ? Ewwwwww....
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A community of hairless apes
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:01pm PT
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FYI,
The new testosterone range as of Oct 2011 is 348 - 1197. (It's no longer 193 - 740.)
I've been trying Vit T for six months now. Current number is 1050 and, sure enough, feels like my soul is sporting a new body machine.
How do you like them apples? ;)
Also doing the Vegan thing M-S, Sun off. I like it. I was inspired by a netflix documentary on over-eating meats and diary products. Also highly recommnend a statin as a preventive if it's right for you.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:06pm PT
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That's a good start, Fatty. She has potential. I used to be only able to do 31 too, when I was her age...
should have known you wouldn't overlook that fact Fish...
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A community of hairless apes
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:08pm PT
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Once the cells of the brain are exposed to the effects of testosterone, that effect can never be completely eradicated and the organism can never truly cease to "think like" a male animal of its species.
Don't tell this to religious people though, might cause them to question their beliefs about how they work. ;)
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A community of hairless apes
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:10pm PT
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How do you take your Vit T, Fructose?
A big ol 18g needle, no wimp here. :)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:11pm PT
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Yo sis, while you're here, does a vesectomy have that same affect as castration in the low-T regard? Hypothetically speaking, of course....
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A community of hairless apes
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:14pm PT
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See my earlier post on eeking out one's last days in a nursing home, you'll see where I'm coming from.
What next, don't climb either? ;)
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Life's full of tradeoffs. As I know you know.
Your approach will reek havoc
perhaps a little over the top, but I get your hyperbole.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:14pm PT
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You're in good company:
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:17pm PT
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Doesn't living in colorado lower your T to begin with? Or is it just that low-t types are drawn there?
Thanks Lois, field results seem to back that up, but I always wondered....
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A community of hairless apes
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:18pm PT
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we evolved a given way for a reason
you turn me on when you talk like this (I'm an evolutionist), where are you (regionally) and what are you doing Sat night? busy?
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
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Dec 19, 2011 - 03:19pm PT
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Man I am of the same opinion - Sroke that T as high as I can and live the good life and to hell with the nursing home. If I can live good and die of a massive heart attach a few years early, that sounds like a great trade off!
I love those people who live on fish but insist they are vegetarians. HA!
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