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Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 8, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
Gotta like Sergio Martinez, from Argentina, maybe the best guy out there right now. Man, can this guy bomb.

JL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTWylfLdCcc&feature=relmfu
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 8, 2011 - 10:28pm PT

Dude walked right into it...

LOL!!!...

Nice shot...

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Oct 9, 2011 - 05:02am PT
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Boxing is history... they only have one household name that means anything. Manny Pacheao, even then who cares.. MMA rules ;)
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 9, 2011 - 05:34am PT
Have to agree with that. I loved boxing, to the point I was at Hearns Leonard II fight at Caesars Palace, 4 rows back from ring side, to see the two men slug it out for 15 rounds, outdoors, in blistering Vegas heat.

Now they'd pretty much have to pay me to go see a boxing match.

MMA is where its at.

DMT
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 9, 2011 - 05:41am PT


I totally disagree...

Boxing is the ticket...

MMA sucks...



Just my OPINION of course...

;-)
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 9, 2011 - 06:27am PT
See now I used to think that too, 5, 10 years back. No holds barred MMA is too brutal imo. But I've come around to the modern gig. They're not allowed to poke each others' eyes out anymore lol. Guys like Dominic Cruz are amazing to watch.

DMT

sides boxing is so f*#king crooked it isn't funny
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 9, 2011 - 06:53am PT


"boxing is so f*#king crooked it isn't funny"...

Some things never change...

LOL!!!...

Reeotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, AZ
Oct 9, 2011 - 07:42am PT
Wow, that Martinez has an unorthodox stance and movement. He must be hard to hit. Plus, he obviously has some power. Dude never saw that one coming!

I used to love watching Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler go at it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcAZ7gnRh4o

I'm not sure if Martinez could have stood up to either one of these guys, though.
BES1'st

climber
USA
Oct 9, 2011 - 08:38am PT
He's probably the best middle weight right now. Ranked 1 and champion by
the Ring even with the possibility of about 5 champions per division
now. There were only *7-8(?) divisions and champions when Benny Leonard
was champion.*Flyweight?
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Oct 9, 2011 - 08:51am PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSet6htnVcQ
BES1'st

climber
USA
Oct 9, 2011 - 06:20pm PT
Hagler I believe could have been champion years prior to winning
the title giving him a better opportunity of surpassing Monzon's
record of 14 defenses.

Bernard Hopkins for certain is going to be remembered as a great
middleweight since he has the record now.

Roy Jones is hard to rate since he moved up out of the division.
Likewise Sugar Ray Robinson's prime and greatness was at welter.


My guess is they are going to let Sergio age more prior to matching
Chavez Jr., who was not in ring top 10 when he won another alphabet
title here and likewise with Canelo.

This guy well have to wait to compare but he looks great now.
BES1'st

climber
USA
Oct 9, 2011 - 06:25pm PT
MMA, UFC is mainly wrestling.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 9, 2011 - 06:32pm PT
Prediction: Within ten years, the bodies that govern sport in all developed countries will prohibit behaviour and actions that lead to concussions and head injuries. In other words, boxing and related "sports" will be banned, or only permitted with a much higher level of head protection. Likewise ice hockey, football (headers), American football, and others.

The first to go will be boxing, given that it's essentially unsafe for anyone to participate in.

The interesting question being that there seems to be an innate human urge toward such things, both participating and watching. So what happens to it?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 9, 2011 - 08:47pm PT
Those Klitschko brothers are pretty good plus they're pretty classy guys from
what I've seen. They both speak about 5 languages and Vladimir is a pretty
fair chess player apparently.
BES1'st

climber
USA
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:13pm PT
Reilly,
Not only that they have both been top 10 fighters prior to winning
titles since around 2000.

P.Rob its open over here, pound for pound best knocked out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpkUJ41THV0

I don't know why you say that? I read Don King gave him a Porsche
for a bonus he was traveling at a speed estimated at 100+ in
Mexico when it occurred. I drove down there myself which I won't
any more due to safety factors.

Mighty Hiker, its questionable in CA. if boxing is legal however
there is police provision and the state commission still licenses
fighters. The law schools here as of 2006 have been teaching moot
law. Most all fighters know the risk I hope their right under
CA. Const. Law is not taken away.



bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Oct 9, 2011 - 10:13pm PT
Huge boxing fan. Back when I was in shape, I actually had a doctor (!) recommend I become a boxer. wtf. Best book on boxing I ever read was "On Boxing" by Joyce Carol Oates. Absolute must-read for anyone interested in this brutal topic. Oh, and you gotta see the movie "Tyson."
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Oct 10, 2011 - 04:19am PT
I was a huge boxing fan even BINTD when I was a full blown martial arts nut, 4th dan teaching in a good sized acadamy. We trained guys for golden gloves and even had a few pro boxers fighting out of our school. Kick boxing was so rare that you had to travel hundreds to thousands of miles to compete. Tword the later years of my involvment UFC was a big influence and suddenly everyone was rolling on the matt learning skills that mostly had been completly ignored. My cousin was a 5th dan at the time out of Boston/franklin MA Ueichi RYU and he would basicly panic when I threw him to the ground. My school has always been more rounded than most but we really amped up the ground game within about ten min of watching the first ultimate fighting video. We were already offering a traditional Aki Jitsu class and it morphed rapidly. One of the first thing that I taught beginner students was how to fall properly. When I started out in Okinawin Katate even the black belts were barely proficiant in falling.

These days when I watch a boxing match it really sinks home how contrived boxing is and how much the reff is directly involved in the match by breaking up the clinch. Left their own devices boxing matches turn into exceptionaly boreing and pathetic hugging matches. MMA takes the natural progression of a clinch to a knee in the face or a body slam.

I had TV for a few years (had it turned off after the last Super Bowl) and it was stunning the ammount of MMA available vs Boxing. No more ESPN tuesday Night boxing, pretty much no boxing available to watch except the 3 pay per view events per year. You could find MMA to watch every day. Also there was big promotion for pay per view MMA events almost every month.
Boxing is pretty much on death door. MMA has the better athlets and the more revalant format.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 10, 2011 - 09:43am PT
MMA is fun to watch until they lie down and hold each other tightly pretending they hate each other..
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Oct 10, 2011 - 09:55am PT
The sweet science.

The greatest of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5_8af3TiY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Oct 10, 2011 - 09:56am PT
There is the ocasional dull MMA fight but nothing even close to the ratio of dull boxing matches.
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