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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Boxing is history... they only have one household name that means anything. Manny Pacheao, even then who cares.. MMA rules ;)
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Reeotch
Trad climber
Kayenta, AZ
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Wow, that Martinez has an unorthodox stance and movement. He must be hard to hit. Plus, he obviously has some power. Dude never saw that one coming!
I used to love watching Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler go at it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcAZ7gnRh4o
I'm not sure if Martinez could have stood up to either one of these guys, though.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Prediction: Within ten years, the bodies that govern sport in all developed countries will prohibit behaviour and actions that lead to concussions and head injuries. In other words, boxing and related "sports" will be banned, or only permitted with a much higher level of head protection. Likewise ice hockey, football (headers), American football, and others.
The first to go will be boxing, given that it's essentially unsafe for anyone to participate in.
The interesting question being that there seems to be an innate human urge toward such things, both participating and watching. So what happens to it?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Those Klitschko brothers are pretty good plus they're pretty classy guys from
what I've seen. They both speak about 5 languages and Vladimir is a pretty
fair chess player apparently.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Oct 10, 2011 - 01:13am PT
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Huge boxing fan. Back when I was in shape, I actually had a doctor (!) recommend I become a boxer. wtf. Best book on boxing I ever read was "On Boxing" by Joyce Carol Oates. Absolute must-read for anyone interested in this brutal topic. Oh, and you gotta see the movie "Tyson."
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 10, 2011 - 07:19am PT
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I was a huge boxing fan even BINTD when I was a full blown martial arts nut, 4th dan teaching in a good sized acadamy. We trained guys for golden gloves and even had a few pro boxers fighting out of our school. Kick boxing was so rare that you had to travel hundreds to thousands of miles to compete. Tword the later years of my involvment UFC was a big influence and suddenly everyone was rolling on the matt learning skills that mostly had been completly ignored. My cousin was a 5th dan at the time out of Boston/franklin MA Ueichi RYU and he would basicly panic when I threw him to the ground. My school has always been more rounded than most but we really amped up the ground game within about ten min of watching the first ultimate fighting video. We were already offering a traditional Aki Jitsu class and it morphed rapidly. One of the first thing that I taught beginner students was how to fall properly. When I started out in Okinawin Katate even the black belts were barely proficiant in falling.
These days when I watch a boxing match it really sinks home how contrived boxing is and how much the reff is directly involved in the match by breaking up the clinch. Left their own devices boxing matches turn into exceptionaly boreing and pathetic hugging matches. MMA takes the natural progression of a clinch to a knee in the face or a body slam.
I had TV for a few years (had it turned off after the last Super Bowl) and it was stunning the ammount of MMA available vs Boxing. No more ESPN tuesday Night boxing, pretty much no boxing available to watch except the 3 pay per view events per year. You could find MMA to watch every day. Also there was big promotion for pay per view MMA events almost every month.
Boxing is pretty much on death door. MMA has the better athlets and the more revalant format.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Oct 10, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
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MMA is fun to watch until they lie down and hold each other tightly pretending they hate each other..
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 10, 2011 - 12:56pm PT
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There is the ocasional dull MMA fight but nothing even close to the ratio of dull boxing matches.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 10, 2011 - 02:16pm PT
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Too bad i am on dial up reily. Ali and frazier was awsome. watched em both many times but there are dozens of MMA fight of the nights that rival that and often surpass it. Especially if you actually understand what is going on.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 10, 2011 - 04:03pm PT
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There is also a reason why boxing is fadeing away.... It's called MMA :)
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 10, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
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My guess is that one of the main reasons for the decline of interest in boxing in America is a couple of incredibly strong russians.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 10, 2011 - 04:13pm PT
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Interesting. BINTD when i as boxing i never had a problem not throwing elbows, Knees, shins etc. Never once did i breake the rules of whatever sport that i was fighting. Somehow i was able to switch gears and program my brain/ machine to zone into the fight with the correct rules of engagement. watching boxing on the otherhad I go nuts! the fat slow guy clinchesand i am screaming at the other guy to throw a knee to the head... Funny how in MMA you almost NEVER see a fat slow guy anymore.. Only one I can think of Is Roy Nelson.. Oh and James Tony ;) But he has most likly given up the game after finding out that fat and slow does not cut it in the big leagues....
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 10, 2011 - 04:27pm PT
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Yeah, still my guess.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Oct 10, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
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My guess is that one of the main reasons for the decline of interest in boxing in America is a couple of incredibly strong russians.
THEY ARE NOT RUSSIANS!!!!!!! Ukrainians...
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 10, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
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Pardon me, I'm Swedish. From now on they are Ukranians.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 10, 2011 - 05:45pm PT
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Never heard of them and probobly never will unless they go into the UFC
;)
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