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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 2, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
http://www.vimeo.com/m/#/26088030

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 2, 2011 - 03:18pm PT
Hmmm, similar advantages and disadvantages as 'bros... how much $?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 2, 2011 - 03:35pm PT
They should send me a set for test and review in actual field conditions...
JMC

climber
oilfields of Sumatra
Aug 2, 2011 - 03:45pm PT
New? Only in a back to the future sort of way.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=392934&tn=20
jstan

climber
Aug 2, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
Does not seem to me this works. Maybe in really soft sandstone. Incredibly soft sandstone.

I suspect I could change them so they would work better though.

At least two things wrong with them.

Anyone actually tried to use this?

PS:
It does not have the expansion factor implied by the photo.
Prod

Trad climber
Aug 2, 2011 - 05:18pm PT
Don't place it upside down.

Prod.
Captain...or Skully

climber
or some such
Aug 2, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
They actually work, JStan. Well, the Cassin Blitz did. Finicky(sp), yes. But it did work, mostly. A friend had a set in the Valley once. We LOVED testing stuff.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Aug 3, 2011 - 09:11am PT
kc

Trad climber
sj, ca
Aug 3, 2011 - 09:43am PT
Hard to see scale in the photos--but Valley Giants are the best!
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 3, 2011 - 11:05am PT
Stephan and JMC, thank you, I thought that they looked familiar.


John S said:
I suspect I could change them so they would work better though. At least two things wrong with them.

Love to see you elaborate your thoughts on this Jstan.....

mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Aug 3, 2011 - 11:17am PT
Ahhhh, the BLITZ.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBdXS2BA3yI&feature=related




awwwww, maaaaannnnn!!!!!!!!
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Aug 3, 2011 - 12:49pm PT
For my money, the best OW pro has to be able to be pushed above you as you climb. In really hard OW's the crux can be having to climb around pro so anything that easily travels up the crack above of you is a big, big plus.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 3, 2011 - 02:46pm PT
Alexbaker posted the weight of these on another site. They look very light in the picture, but the reality - not so much. I'm not so enamored anymore.

John Butler

Social climber
SLC, Utah
Aug 3, 2011 - 04:02pm PT
Seems like they would need a pretty strong spring to keep them in place with an outward pull... wouldn't they?
tolman_paul

Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
Aug 3, 2011 - 04:02pm PT
I've never used one, but my concern would be that the strength, or rather pullout force would vary based on how much the unit is expanded. At the greatest extent of it's range it would have the greatest resistance to pulling out, and as it gets put in narrower cracks the resistance to pullout would decrease. A cam or tube chock will have nearly the same pullout throughout it's range.

I can't tell from the pic or spec sheet if it is spring loaded.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 3, 2011 - 07:10pm PT
For my money, the best OW pro has to be able to be pushed above you as you climb

Here's a tip you'll hear almost nowhere else; If you're bumping a Valley giant, the best way to do it, is from above. Just grab that sucker by the axle, like a handgrip on a suitcase, and pull it up after you. Way easier than pushing from below. Way easier to keep the cams distributed correctly. Limited application I realize, but this is a tip that really works!
John Butler

Social climber
SLC, Utah
Aug 5, 2011 - 07:46pm PT
I got to play with the Kong Gypsies at OR today. I think I'd feel more comfortable climbing above a well placed 2x4
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 5, 2011 - 09:16pm PT
They have a price on them?
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 5, 2011 - 09:30pm PT
They're not exactly big. 205 mm is only 8". [That's what she said]

So they're heavier than cams? Heavier than heavy two-axle Camalots? They'd better be cheap, then.

You can't beat a Valley Giant, however.
Captain...or Skully

climber
or some such
Aug 6, 2011 - 12:00am PT
It's true, ain't it?
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