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Feb 10, 2011 - 12:21am PT
Keep the magic alive, Crag!



Mountain climber
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:23am PT
That took serious compassion and honesty, cheers bro, that puts you in a high echelon of our society. I sincerely hope you two can mend that friendship.


Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:30am PT
thanks for that Dean. You put it very eloquently.
It takes guts to go on a public forum and express remorse.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:32am PT
That was a very brave way to open up. We all have things we need to deal with directly, and maybe that will help us do so. Thank you and good luck.

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:35am PT
Cragman...Sh#t happens...We all go off on wild tangents and do stupid things in the name of pride which we may regret later....It seems the downfall comes shortly thereafter...? If you need some good ideas for some pranks watch Grumpy Old Men....rj

Social climber
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:48am PT
hey there say, dean... you know...this is what is known as loveing others, from god's standpoint--when our 'self' does not get in the way at all...

say, you are stepping up to, and onto, solid ground here...
edit: say, remember that part of a famous song:
lord lift me up and help me stand, by faith, on heaven's stable land...
a higher plane, that i have found, lord plant my feet on higher ground... :)

and you know what, this honest open share, of yours, will bless and humble many hearts... we are here to be friends in life, and sometimes being friends, means to die to ourselves, and live in such a way that others blossom... the blossoming only means that there is that much more sweetness, in our life, and we in turn, get rid of our 'stinky old petals' and we TOO then, are free to blossom and the 'ball rolls on'...

god bless to you, dean/cragman...

may you and doug now have many wonderful years being neighbors, as his body heals, and your 'share' here, heals, within you...

wow, supertopo sure is a place of very speical climbers... all taking many different climbs, but all knowing that the view is something mighty powerful and beyond us--though each new climb, makes sure to let us know, that, "the view is really there to cherish"...

god bless to you this eve...
say, this night, to your family, as they are the ones that see you daily, as you grow--you are NEW man...


A long way from where I started
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:52am PT
There are a lot of mysteries in this life, but one thing I know for sure is that you don't get to redo the past. So keep your focus on the future, and keep helping your friend. That's what counts.

Social climber
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:55am PT
hey there say, ghost... wow, i was just adding an edit and i saw your post...

wow, that is for sure... what a sweet note...
well, god bless all... it is nite-nite for me, here, earlier than usual...
em kn0t

Trad climber
isle of wyde
Feb 10, 2011 - 12:56am PT
"a heart is like a parachute, it only works when it's open"

touched by your words, and your open heart


Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Feb 10, 2011 - 01:01am PT
Regret is a useless emotion and every day presents new opportunity.
Thank you for sharing. I love your statement that transparency is part of the road to integrity.
Sometimes integrity demands that we part with old friends as well.
I'm glad that in your case, you were able to reunite.

Feb 10, 2011 - 01:09am PT

You should draw strength from your humility and transparency, should all of us be so gracious with friends we have fallen out with.

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 10, 2011 - 03:22am PT
One of the most heartfelt things I've ever read. Thanks.

Cheers Cragman,


Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Feb 10, 2011 - 05:00am PT
Nice Dean.
I've had a couple falling outs that were recovered from and a couple that probably never will.

Good on you for making the effort to make this one go away....
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Who'll stop the reign?
Feb 10, 2011 - 09:18am PT
Facing the fall line, one turn at a time.....

Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Feb 10, 2011 - 09:56am PT
Peace from lynnie.....may we work together.

Feb 10, 2011 - 02:19pm PT
Good on ya for taking the high road, Crag.
Ricardo Cabeza

All Over.
Feb 10, 2011 - 02:22pm PT
Thanks man, very humble of you. It brings to mind a couple of very important fences that I need to mend.

Big Wall climber
So Cal
Feb 10, 2011 - 07:55pm PT
A very touching read. I too have had differences with others & over time, I have rekindled those friendships with those whom I had really connected with in the first place.

Life is way too short to hold grudges.

Thanks for sharing some humility with us.

Big Wall climber
Feb 10, 2011 - 08:42pm PT
thanks cragman, you just talked me into getting ahold of one of my old buddies that i kinda butt heads with (alpha dog thing)
thanks bro
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
Feb 10, 2011 - 09:16pm PT

That was the BEST thing I read all day. Thanks for posting up. (TFPU) If ever I were to break a leg on Third Pillar, say after an unexpected lightning strike, just sayin, :) and then partially eaten by tuolumne vermin, I'd want you - a man of passion and integrity - to be among my rescuers.

Good luck with everything.

Take care.
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