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jack herer

climber
Veneta, Oregon
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 29, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT ABOUT ARGUING THE ETHICS OF FIXED DRAWS, THIS IS ABOUT SOME SLIMEY DOUCH GETTING CAUGHT ON VIDEO STEALING FROM OTHER CLIMBERS.

ALSO NOTE: I took no part in this, I was not there, I do not sport climb, these are only friends of mine, and I thought by posting this on here lots of people would get a kick out of it.

I know not everyone on here agrees with sport climbing and fixed draws but thats besides the point here. This d#@&%e was caught after a week long spree of stick clipping up hard 5.13 and up projects and stealing all of the draws. Anyways here is a funny video of him getting caught. Props to Tim and Ian for showing nothing but class in the video.


Hippie d#@&%e bag theif on the left trying the justify his actions to Tim Garland. I guess he said he was from Colorado Springs.

And the video: http://www.vimeo.com/18267416

Johnny K.

Mountain climber
Southern,California
Dec 29, 2010 - 01:55pm PT
haha man oh man
khanom

Trad climber
The Dessert
Dec 29, 2010 - 01:56pm PT
It's not beside the point. He was cleaning up trash.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 29, 2010 - 01:58pm PT
Typical greenie, prolly a prancer...

Very cool to get that on film. I'm glad when thieves get caught, it happens so rarely.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Dec 29, 2010 - 01:59pm PT
Thief. I BEFORE E !! Arrrgghhhh!!
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:01pm PT
BUSTED!

Well done! Way to post his photo.
WBraun

climber
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:01pm PT
I'm not buying that cleaning up bullsh'it.

When I was up there at Smith hanging with all the local guys there I thought it was so cool that everyone left their draws.

The community up there was so cool and positive with really good energy.

This guy is an idiot outcast with no link to the awesome local community there.
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:02pm PT
ok, looks like its time to bring out the boys. ss
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
CALIENTE!
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:02pm PT
Wow they handled that very nicely (including posting the vid)

DMT
jack herer

climber
Veneta, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2010 - 02:04pm PT
Whats up Shipoopi, its Ty. Hope all is well!


And Werner thanks for the praise!
jack herer

climber
Veneta, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
DMT- Yes Tim Garland doing a lot of the talking is a teacher and it definatly shows. Ian Calwell who filmed it and whos draws those where is a State Park employee. Two of the nicest guys you will ever run into at the crag hands down.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
They gave him thirty days in San Berdino...Very nice..lots of folks would have sent him home with a biner through the septum!
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
Busted!... What a loser... I hate thieves.
Handled very well guys.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
Stealing is lame, but so are forests of fixed draws in my opinion.

That said, I certainly don't condone the thIEf's actions.


"Do you know the ethics of Smith Rocks? How we're allowed to leave whatever we want dangling off the crags for as long as we want?"

AW once said what a terrible thing and an eyesore it was to have a rope hanging on an aid project for a week at Smith. So he pushed the free sport standards to where we had a superior product.

Now we have countless bolts and draws hanging off of "free" projects, essentially forever. Big improvement.....
nature

climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:13pm PT
naw.... it's hard to argue he's "cleaning" litter. his intent is obvious - he's taking someone else's personal property. the cleaning litter argument is bullsh#t.
khanom

Trad climber
The Dessert
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:18pm PT
To be clear I was joking. yeah it's theft and I'm glad he was caught. But leaving draws up is lame sport-wankery. Just MHO.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:46pm PT
Cool, if pedantic, how those guys handled that. I wonder what happened next?
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:49pm PT
The thief looks the part as well. This character undoubtedly has more history with this kind of thing than just this one incident. maybe someone will post up on it.

Love his use of the lingo and nonconfrontational diction. At least he avoided an escalation and a thorough beating. Stuff like this in surfing would mean you would have forfeited your car and taking a major beating as well, maybe much worse.

Jay, they got their stuff off him the loser and let him move on to do it somewhere else. Pedantic, certainly but at least no one got injured. I would have freaked out and beat the f##k out of him, much to my own embarrassment later.

And as Utahman says just below, draws and carabiners appear all the time on Ebay.
utahman912

Social climber
SLC, UT
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:51pm PT
i wonder, what name dose he sell under on ebay?
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Dec 29, 2010 - 02:58pm PT
Wasn't there a portland area climbing shop that had gear stolen this year? I remember the owner posting something here on ST.

Peters right, this guys seems like he has lots of experience.

EDIT: Any chance this is the same guy?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1061634&msg=1061729#msg1061729
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