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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 21, 2010 - 01:09am PT
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hey there say, delendaest,
say, there may be few crag dogs threads for some stories, not sure though...
hope that gives some hunting though, if no stories show up here yet...
say, chappy had a dog, i know, a few years back in his climbing days...
don't know any stories about it though...
well, that's it for me...
:)
my dog would make a bad crag dog:
she a site hound...
whatever catches her fancy, she'd be off and running...
:)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 21, 2010 - 01:16am PT
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Yes! That's what makes them crag dogs.
Not all hounds dragged to the crags, are crag dogs!
Being serious here.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 21, 2010 - 01:20am PT
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hey there say, jaybro... ohmy... i keep trying to get off line and do a project... :))
just saw THIS again now... say, just curious...
are some breeds, too, more of a crag dog, than others...
or is it just due to the dogs being with the owner, since youth,
and enjoying being nearby its master?
was curious, as some dog breeds DO seem to take to the rocks, and digging around rocks, and just taking in the area for a study, etc...
okay, now, that IS it for me now...
gotta:
take my leave...
for the eve...
:)
god bless...
:)
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delendaest
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Nov 21, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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From the pharaohs painting images of their dogs on the pyramids, to Odysseus coming home to Argos: dogs have always been man’s best friend. I feel a sense of contiguity whenever I see a dog with its head on its paws or chasing squirrels at the bottom of a route. Mankind would not be what it is today were it not for the dog.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Nov 21, 2010 - 03:16am PT
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I've told this story here before, but I was belaying at the base on the Line at Lover's Leap and a dog was waiting the next climb over. He was cool with us. But some Euro trash dude came by followed by his Merrican girlfriend and the dog sensed that the dude did not like him, so the dog started snarling and barking at him. AFTER they got past the dog the dude starts throwing rocks at the dog, so I yelled at him. Not much else I could do as I was belaying. the girlfriend says something like - the dog went after him! and I said yes but he was well past the dog when he started throwing rocks at it. I wish I said something like "see how that loser treats dogs, it's only a matter of time until he treats you like that"
I love seeing dogs at the crags, but leaving them alone while you go multi pitch is asking for trouble. The dog needs to be perfect if you're going to do that.
My old dog was the master beggar when cragging. His secret was to not be overly in your face. He'd go up and stay about 10 feet away from anyone with food. Give them a mournful look for just a few seconds. Then lie down and put his head flat on the ground. And look up once a minute or so. Almost every one would toss a little something his way. Then he'd move on to the next victim.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Nov 21, 2010 - 07:59am PT
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Two crag dog stories same beast, a yellow lab Abby total food-aholic.
We came back to our packs and two climbers with frowns informed us Abby had eaten their sandwiches. The guys were Warren Harding & TM Herbert, fortunately we had 4 beers so we all enjoyed each others company in the late afternoon as Abby looked on remorsefully.
I had no sooner told my friend what a great crag dog Abby was becoming as evidenced by staying at our packs and keeping the rodents away when this climber says, "whoa that dog greeted me as I pulled up over the top of our route, licked me right in the face!" It was Pychedelic Tree at the Leap, imagine stepping off the tree to that greeting.
Depends on the beast but Abby sure went on adventures while we climbed. Always thought a camera mounted on her head would be interesting viewing at the end of the day.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Nov 21, 2010 - 10:19am PT
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Depends on the dog. Some crag dogs are great and will park themselves on the owners pack and wait all day. Other dogs... not so great. I've seen a lot of poor dogs tied up at the base whining and crying the entire time their owner is climbing. I saw one freaked out dog break loose and go scrambling up a pitch of 5.8 cliff after it's owner and had to be rescued when it got stuck. The scared, squirming large dog made the rescue effort pretty nerve-wracking. Then there's the teleporting dogs that mysteriously find their way all the way to the top and meet you there.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 21, 2010 - 11:00am PT
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How do you feel about infants at the base of climbs? Dogs are basically infantile wolves. People should leave them at home unless they are WELL TRAINED not to interfere with the experience of other climbers.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Nov 21, 2010 - 11:00am PT
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So my dog nosed into your pack and ate yer lunch! Big freakin deal! Lighten up locker. ..and I don't think that was my dog that peed on your pack even if there were 2 witness's who say it was him - you probably shouldn't have put it so close to him. Yeah, so he barked at everyone who walked by on the trail: he's not a biter ya know. I'm like not into leashing him, he likes to roam free. So big freakin deal if he wasn't leashed and walked over to your pack and might have cocked his leg, so freakin what?! He's actually well behaved, and wouldn't have started humping the Chihuahua if she wasn't in heat. Ya have to admit that wuz funny!
Yeah, I hear that he dropped a massive duece on the trail as we left....but hey, it's all natural man. It will degrade and enhance the soil man.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Nov 21, 2010 - 11:10am PT
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JD: Infants at the base of climbs are fine. No trouble at all. An infant will never open your pack, eat your lunch, bite your ankle and pee on your rope. Just stick them in a backpack, zip it up, and hang it on a tree while you go climbing. After an hour in the pack you won't hear a peep out of them the rest of the day.
I take it back... I did have one bite my ankle once.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Nov 21, 2010 - 11:25am PT
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And an infant won't drop a massive deuce on the trail either:-)
in all seriousness, I'm OK with folks bringing their dogs to the crags. I've never done it...ever. I don't and won't bring them. I only bring the mutts when I'm going into the deep woods solo, beyond cell phone and help range, and then they are there strictly as either early cougar warning systems or as cougar bait.
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this just in
Ice climber
north fork
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Nov 21, 2010 - 11:32am PT
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I'd rather step over a dog duece anyday over dirty diapers left by the infants parents. Crying and screaming @ the base of a climb really makes me enjoy nature. Also infants require full attention and my dog doesn't require any. Yes I don't have kids.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 21, 2010 - 11:54am PT
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It definitely depends on the dog. Think of how well mannered various service dogs are. Then there are those 'yappin' Chihuahas™'
I'm sure some breeds are better than others, but in general smart ones with type B personalities do the best.
One of the best I have met was a wolf, yes a wolf (85% Lupine) from Telluride name Kenai, that I'm sure Mr Donini has met at Indian Creek before
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Morgan
Trad climber
East Coast
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Nov 21, 2010 - 12:16pm PT
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My friend Garry's dog Marvin (RIP) would always run around the north side of the cliff (Cannon) to meet him on top of Moby Grape, Vertigo, whatever.
I think owners should take more care, though. A couple of times in the gunks I've seen owners tie their dogs to a tree, and then the dog digs up a yellow jacket nest while trying to make a cool resting spot.
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this just in
Ice climber
north fork
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Nov 21, 2010 - 12:41pm PT
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What if none of that happens. Nice rok.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Nov 21, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
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My dog always stuck around and sometimes met me at the top. She was never a nuisance to me or others.
She was especially good at fending off backcountry heroin junkies too.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Nov 21, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
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Leave the fuking dogs at HOME!!!...
Grow up locker. Nature is where this act is intended. You want the owners to come home to a big mess?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Nov 21, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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I always stick around.
How can LEB talk endlessly on things she knows nothing about? Amazing.
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this just in
Ice climber
north fork
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Nov 21, 2010 - 03:14pm PT
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Dude, now here comes a couple paragraphs.
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TheWaker43
Trad climber
GA
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Nov 21, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
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I take my chihuahua every time I backpack. He is full blood but huge and often mistaken for a MinPin. He has hiked 10+ miles with me, only carrying him across a few fields that I thought might have snakes. Scares me though, as he chases anything and thinks everybody is his friend. Last fall we were walking a 7 mile loop and came across 3 black racers. He got a little too close for me. But if I am leaving the ground I leave him at my folk's house, who are more than happy to keep him. Sorry if this is sentimental. I think I am like the OP and love pretty much every dog.
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