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iceless
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 16, 2002 - 08:38pm PT
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Is there an accepted definition?
Can one ever be considered an alpinist if all you do is climb in Yosemite? Or do I have to move to Boulder (god forbid)?
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c4
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2002 - 08:46pm PT
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Alpinist \Al"pin*ist\, n.
A climber of the Alps.
Here we go with the flame war. =)
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FRANCE
Novice climber
Europe
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2002 - 09:32pm PT
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Flame war??!!?? WE SURRENDER!!!!
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Doug
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2002 - 01:25pm PT
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Sorry c4, the term has been generalized in the last 100 years. Merriam-Webster doesn't have "alpinist", but "alpinism" is defined as: "mountain climbing in the alps or other high mountains"
It still rules out Yosemite.... that's just rock climbing.
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reality
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2002 - 02:07pm PT
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yes, just rock climbing, ain't it great?
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Jim Bob
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2002 - 03:59pm PT
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Alpinists don't need Supertopos.
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Max
Novice climber
Da snowy ditch
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Dec 17, 2002 - 05:39pm PT
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The "American Heritage Dictionary" that I have here at work defines an alpinist as "A mountain climber." Though I think the vertical cliffs of Yosemite should be respected as much as any mountain, this definition certainly excludes such places. Thus, I propose we start calling wall climbers "El Capinists". This way, we have our own fancy euro-word, and don't feel inferior to those crampon shod snow plowers....8~)
small wall
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IPA
Novice climber
reality???
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2002 - 09:42pm PT
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If you are "up there" and livin it up YOU are an ALPINIST!
Doug Robinson once wrote; "mountaineering just means glad to be here.."
I think he may have hit the nail on the head.
BE GLAD TO BE UP THERE.
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s w
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2002 - 12:09am PT
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Small Wall, make that El Capos.
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dork
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2002 - 10:50pm PT
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so DMT, does spinning brodies in the camp 4 parking lot today make me an alpinist? Snow, ice, mountains (close proximity), the car ascending out of the hole it dug itself into.. no, I guess that just makes my car an alpinist.
what about defining 'alpinist' in relationship to the alpine ecosystem, which would then make nearly all idiots that drive tioga pass alpinists. what a sad sorry thing.
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dork
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2002 - 12:22pm PT
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no point really, just being a dork
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BrownEyes
Novice climber
The Sierra
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2002 - 01:20pm PT
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Perhaps climbers compelled to conquer El Capitan over and over again, or just climb it at all could be referred to as being afflicted with "El Capism" or El Capinitis, or El Capolio...
Is alpinism an affliction? Is it hereditary?
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Copperhead
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2002 - 01:34pm PT
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Did you hear about that company sponsoring miniature mountaineering expeditions? The have 6 inch alpenists.
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abe
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2002 - 01:43pm PT
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A state of mind.
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Al Pinist
Novice climber
Merde Glace
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2002 - 03:02pm PT
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I have been drytooling at the bachar boulders in a snowstorm with a heavy pack. I've been bivvied on a ledge the size of a picnic table (or is it a picnic table?) for twenty seven days. I've refused repeated rescue attempts. i can see my Dolt cart parked far below. i could rap off and get a room in Mammoth but I have Ethics and must uphold the traditions of the art. I will not come down until all bolts have been removed from the Gorge. I just checked my rucksack; I'm down to four cans of courage, a powerbar and pipe scrapings. Still, I must endure and yes, enjoy the suffering. When they find my frozen, raven pecked body next spring, they will have a big party at the pinnions, jump over bonfires, drink many cans of courage and say "he was Al Pinist."
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Circlehead
Novice climber
San Fran
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2002 - 03:15pm PT
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Copperhead: How high do these 6 inch alpenists climb to? Do they push hard? Or are they just gumbies?
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