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apogee
climber
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$250 opening bid????
Hang on a second, lemmee look at my rack....
I'm a millionaire!!!!!!!111111
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utahman912
Social climber
SLC, UT
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I have one from way back that has the "Chouinard" on the gate. Not sure when it was made.
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Larry
Trad climber
Bisbee
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Verified by an email. Now that's authenticity!
I once found one of these lying on the rock in the Buttermilks. I have a pretty near collection of all Diamond C carabiners up to about Y2K, I think.
No wait, mine says "Alcoa" on it. Is that good, value-wise?
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Yeah, my portfolio...er, rack, just shot up too!
"Hand Forged" is stretching it a bit, though. The carabiner bodies arrived from Alcoa and had the gates assembled at the tin shed. But they were mass-forged elsewhere -- certainly not Ventura -- and I doubt it was hand work.
Wish I still had one of the even older generation of forgings. Then I could retire.
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Ropeboy
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Over priced. I have a bunch of those I got in 68. I still climb with them and enjoy them but don't consider them collectible.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Does any one have Chouinard biners with the following markings
Chouinard 1700 kG USA
Chouinard USA 2100 Kg
Chouinard Alcoa 7075
and knows the dates of manufacture? I gave them all to Ken Yager.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Here's the original Chouinard Biner, we use to call them crabs.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Now that's a carabiner!
Completely simple, clean lines, smooth gate with no flanges.
Its simplicity makes it that much more obvious that any large force will run mostly along the back not the gate, which was the breakthrough idea of a pear shape.
I like the clean lines of some of the new wire-gate biners, too.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Here's a shot with a scale for reference;
Interestingly enough I just noticed the "S" stamped on it, must of been my buddy Steves' from BITD.
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ec
climber
ca
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DR, I agree 'hand forged' is a stretch.
By the photos it is clearly a machine forge. And the gate was most likely made from bar stock milled on the '4-station' gate machine in Ventura. Starting bid should be .99!!
 ec
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Somewhere I have a 'biner that only has "Alcoa" on it and no other markings. Found it on a ledge on the Captain many, many years ago. Where is that sucka?
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Rob Roy Ramey
Trad climber
Colorado
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I use one as my chalk bag carabiner and therefore use it every time I go climbing or bouldering. It is pressed into more serious service when my rack runs low on carabiners. Yes, it is an antique, but it adds a touch of class.
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WBraun
climber
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250 bucks for a carabiner?
See how much you can detach yourself from your worldly ways >>> Throw it into the dumpster.
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Scared Silly
Trad climber
UT
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The seller is smoking crack. Getting some one to sucker up $25 would be styling. More like $10 would be the norm. Especially as those came 10 years after the original Alcoas. I have 3 of the original Alcoas not to mention 3 Bedyans which I think are far more collectable.
Funny story, last summer I was up at a crag hat some sport climbers bolted up real good. While scoping out a trad line I spied a pin with a biner on it. I climbed the route, which was not bad, pulled the pin and bagged a Bedyan that had probably been sitting there for 40 years. And the sport climbers thought they discovered the crag.
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ec
climber
ca
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BTW, anything that was hand forged was most likely stamped with a mark, i.e., "diamond c," Not 'Chouinard.'
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Larry
Trad climber
Bisbee
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Too bad that hollow job broke when clipped to bolt hangers.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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I've a few of those too. I think many of us do.
I don't think that's a '68 'biner. Didn't the gates shut flush until the mid '70s?
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ec
climber
ca
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The seller 'George' responded via email that Jeff Maudlin @ BD told him that he was unsure of the vintage, but also told him that they were hand forged by Henneck and Yvon; "the real deal." Where's Henneck, he posts here, eh? I still don't buy it.
ec
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Well, I might have been interested, but eBay says it's "used." Heh.
Curt
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