Nietzsche and Modern Mountaineering - Wilfrid Noyce

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Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 27, 2010 - 01:20pm PT
Wilfrid Noyce has long been a thinking man's mountaineer. He authored this engaging and wonderful collection of writings from other similarly minded gentlemen. This chapter on Nietzsche I found to be particularly interesting.























tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Jun 27, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 27, 2010 - 04:08pm PT
Thanks SG. Another great contribution from the Grossman-deGravelle Library!! You are regular salt mill!

This volume was published in 1950, by the way. In the introduction he notes why he has chose these men (Dante, Petrarch, Rousseau, Ferdinand de Saussure, Goethe, Wordsworth, Keats, Ruskin, Leslie Stephen, Nietzsche, Pope Pius XI and Robert Falcon Scott) to write about:

[...] each has made his particular contribution to a certain feeling in us, a feeling which would not be quite the same had these men not lived. Without their example, our appreciation and exertions among hills would be the weaker
Dirka

Trad climber
SF
Jun 27, 2010 - 04:26pm PT
An overlooked area of philosophy. Thanks for posting it up!
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 27, 2010 - 04:28pm PT
Rad! Look! there goes StevieG, off in the stacks to find that volume now! We shall see it posted anon! Some of us may have missed this early peek of Mimi and Steve's new library--- a couple of years back. I was one of the first in there and luckily took a pano series:



M dG and Stevie share this one but Mimi has her own just off the bedroom--- its a bit more Benedictine in design I guess and quite a bit more floral--- those Louisiana French roots of hers:

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2010 - 04:29pm PT
"First published in Great Britain in MCML..." Classic!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2010 - 04:52pm PT
Destined to spend eternity as a truncated voice on a refrigerator magnet...

Even Fred himself would have to be bleaked out by that ignoble twist of modernism! LOL
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Jun 27, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
Nietzsche was asking for it due to his primarily aphoristic style.




Interesting bit of an article. A little off in that it wasn't Nietzsche that marshalled his later notes for use by Hitler, so the thematic implied that Nietzsche was a cause of german mountaineering I think is flawed.

My WW history is not so good, so I will just ask whether German and Italian control over vast areas of territory lead more to German and Italian nationalistic ascents than any other nations during that time, than did the spirit of the age, if we can even say that Nietzsche had an influence that wide spread at that time.

I think his influence is more profoundly felt in post modern literature and critical theory and history than elsewhere, but FWIW, I'm out of touch with academia these days.


I'd like to hear KLK's thoughts on this.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 05:54pm PT
A curious philosophical bump in the road!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jun 30, 2010 - 06:01pm PT
Noyce's "The Springs of Adventure" is also quite good, or if you like quite noyce. He was quite an interesting man, and very literary. His books are quite readable, which perhaps reflects his education, and his work as headmaster at a distinguished boy's private school. Noyce may be the only person ever to have written a poem at the south col of Chomolungma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfrid_Noyce
Thomas

Trad climber
The Tilted World
Jun 30, 2010 - 06:32pm PT
Awesome. Would you be willing to post the Goethe chapter? That might be insightful.

Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
cintune

climber
the Moon and Antarctica
Jun 30, 2010 - 07:38pm PT
Passed this on to a friend and Nietzsche scholar who pointed out that Noyce doesn't mention Aleister Crowley, who was probably the most Nietzschean alpinist of his day.
Thomas

Trad climber
The Tilted World
Jul 1, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
Bump for good reading!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jul 2, 2010 - 12:43am PT
I can't even recall the number of super climbers who have fondled a horse shortly before loosing it all.....
Walleye

climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
Jul 2, 2010 - 02:51pm PT
Hey Jaybro, the Nietzsche and Kierkegaard are still waiting for you on the Big Stone by the Side of the Road... Git sum!!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jul 2, 2010 - 03:34pm PT
I know, and I just got a big haulbag, too....
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2010 - 11:25am PT
Big enough to hold all the classics?!?

As requested, Noyce's take on the the Big G, Goethe.























Thomas

Trad climber
The Tilted World
Jul 10, 2010 - 06:14pm PT
Thank you sir!

Randisi

Boulder climber
PA
Jul 12, 2010 - 01:51pm PT
It bears pointing out that Nietzsche's insanity was due to syphilis.

The poor bastard probably only had sex once in his life!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2010 - 10:41pm PT
I wonder if Noyce knew about his VD?
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