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Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 26, 2010 - 05:12pm PT
I just posted 15+ revised articles on my How To Big Wall Climb Project

you can see a directory of the posts here:

http://www.supertopo.com/a/How_To_Big_Wall_Climb_Table_of_Contents/a139n.html

A few people have asked me when this book will be done. I don't know. For some reason, finishing this book is taking me forever. I've put thousands of hours into writing. But much of that time is rewriting and going in circles. Should it be a complete how to book? Just a road map for climbing a clean aid grade VI? How to use photos? Should I just do a video? Circles: I know them all too well.

So I figure, might as well post everything I have. That way folks can try this stuff out. Let me know what is clear and not clear. And when the book is done... someday... it will be much better thanks to your feedback.

Ill be shooting more videos this spring and posting them here: http://www.youtube.com/supertopovideo

Thanks!

El Capitan after an especially cold winter storm.
El Capitan after an especially cold winter storm.
Credit: Chris McNamara
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 26, 2010 - 06:12pm PT
Chris, it's a project that can Never be complete. You just have to decide when you have enough there that they can't easily get elsewhere, and print that, there will always be updates.
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Feb 26, 2010 - 06:45pm PT
A "Stop corrupting our youth, Commie!" bump to ease my guilt
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 26, 2010 - 07:53pm PT

AWESOME!!!!!!

THANKS CHRIS. YOU'LL MAKE A HARDMAN OUTTA ME ONE OF THESE DAYS. . .

just sayin'
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Feb 26, 2010 - 09:15pm PT
Well, this is one hell of a good effort, Chris.

I went through all the "chapters". Extraordinary detail and "cockpit" advice. The best-ever Big Wall book here and with the excellent videos, just incredible. Thanks!! You should be really enthused!!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 26, 2010 - 10:27pm PT
Hi Chris. I had a brief look at the table of contents, and the first part of the introduction. It looks fine to me - assuming that there are all the usual diagrams and pictures to illustrate things.

As the introduction sets the tone for the rest of the book, I'd suggest emphasizing the concept of building blocks. That is, you do big routes one pitch at a time, and you learn how to aid climb one skill (or so) at a time. It breaks it into pieces - which the table of contents indicates is what you've done anyway - which is a good learning tactic. Werner once told me he'd done 13 Grade Vs before he did his first grade VI, which sort of illustrates the point.

Another thing, of course, is emphasizing the importance of experience and thinking for yourself. Responsibility, in other words.

Please try to have it out by the summer, so I can train for an ascent of El Cap in the autumn with PTPP.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Feb 26, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
How about a chapter to help someone decide if they are really ready and able to climb a grade VI route? Will they be/create the cluster, be part of the cluster or be able to avoid the cluster? i.e. if you're freaked out at the idea of leading Texas Flake or Hollow Flake, then maybe you shouldn't really be considering those routes.
In this day and age, where there are clusterf*#ks up and down the popular routes, maybe there should be a discussion of truly being ready to climbing the route in considerate style and respecting everyone else who wants to climb the same route.

I would stress that all routes are not for all people.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Feb 26, 2010 - 11:17pm PT
Mark,

True that... ready to climbing the route in considerate style and respecting everyone else who wants to climb the same route.


It's in my mind regularly. I don't want to be in anyone's way and I don't want anyone in my way.


Cmac, go ALL out. The rest has been done, unless you know that what you will put out will be better than the other printed materials out there.

All out!
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2010 - 11:21am PT
Thanks everyone for the praise and feedback. I am going to keep adding more and more chapters... then ill go back and add in a lot of your suggestions. Preciate it!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Feb 28, 2010 - 05:16pm PT
hey there, say, bump for chris...

:)
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Mar 11, 2010 - 09:38am PT
I know it's rough -and really good- but um, nice bio, Ian. bump.

About the Author
Ian is a man of the mountains. His overwhelming desire to spend as much time in them as possible has been the reason for him to spen
The Alpine

Big Wall climber
Tampa, FL
Mar 11, 2010 - 10:09am PT
I bet it'll give Chongo's version a real run for its money!

Ha.
YetAnotherDave

Trad climber
Vancouver, BC
Mar 11, 2010 - 02:38pm PT
Thanks Chris!
adamiata

Ice climber
Candia, NH
Mar 12, 2010 - 05:19am PT
My 2 cents:

I got into aiding about a year ago with the goal of a grade IV at some point in the future. I'm up to aid soloing grade III up to C2 or so with reasonable efficiency. I've been scouring everything on big-wall how-to that I can get my hands on.

Chris, your draft material has been by far the most clear and useful, compared to the Mountaineers and Falcon books. Your project is easier to follow, really drives home the efficiency and speed aspect, and doesn't waste time things that are TOO basic. Seriously, with all due respect to the authors, the Mountaineers book wastes a whole chapter with pictures of dozens of different belay devices and helmets that would be more at home in a intro to climbing book.

Your videos on bounce testing, cleaning and ascending are far more understandable than any book illustrations I've seen. It's easy enough to just set up an ascending rig, but all the little details I can watch cut a lot of time off the learning curve.

You've got something good going here, with unique things to offer. Please don't let this project die.
John Fine

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 3, 2010 - 06:21am PT
Chris, here's a suggested contribution on Bailing:

Collected anti-Bailing wisdom I've heard from folks (apologies if I got any attributions wrong):

* "If you have gotten your loads and yourself to the top of your fixed lines, then the climb is half done" (PTPP)
* "Almost all bails are mental rather than technical" (Tom Evans)
* "Don't get discouraged if you only did one pitch today - you might do five tomorrow" (Tom Evans)
* "The first day is the worst day. The second is the scariest. After that everything is better." (everyone I've ever talked to)
* "The moment you actually start to bail, you feel HORRIBLE" (Mark Hudon)

Great book, good luck,

-John
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2010 - 12:17pm PT
thanks for all the comments and encouragement. i am still not sure when this will be done because i am having trouble figuring out how to show the stuff with photos. maybe ill just have mostly text and then make some you tube videos that can illustrate the points better?
hoipolloi

climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
Apr 4, 2010 - 02:18pm PT
Hey Chris-

I have been teaching a few different people to wall climb and something that always causes people problems and gets over looked by a lot of material is cleaning traverses and cleaning sharp angling sections of climbing.

Traverses, where you aren't just lowering out (Im thinking of the first pitch of Lost in America, for example), are just difficult, I think it can be the toughest type of cleaning. It gets over looked in a lot of books and material.

Also, something more common that a full on traverse, is climbing where there is a sharp angle to it and pieces have to be passed then cleaned. This is tough work, I know I do it without much thought, nor TOO much effort, when on the wall, but I can't seem to figure out how to explain it to others...

Suggestions? Thoughts? Videos?
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